I am currently having this problem as well. The female is healthy and he has been very gentle with her. The water is tanned and she'll go check out the nest, but turns back part way and then he chases her. They've been together for two days I think. She has one little nip in her fin anal fin and that's all so I'm leaving them together. He is continually adding to the nest and chasing her, so that seems like a good sign. She was VERY flirty when in her chimney, so I thought they'd be quick. If they don't spawn in the next 4 days I'll re-condition and try again.
I have the exact same set up. I think yours will spawn soon since its only been two days. Also at least your female is actually going to the bubble nest. Mine isn't.
Though my male made a very big nest and I don't want to take him out. If I have to I will. He is always adding new bubbles to his nest though.
Would I be able to just take the female out to recondition or would I have to take both of them out separate from eye view?
I would remove them both. If the male is left in the tank alone for awhile it will become "his" territory and he will only attack the female. You could leave the tank as it is though, then when you put them back in it might be familiar. Or maybe it would be beneficial to move things around so it's like they can start over again? Hopefully someone else will chime in here. She keeps going to the nest but is a little skittish and swims away if he gets close at all. He is pretty gentle with her, just chases aggressively, but they've been together for a couple days and I see only a nip or two.
He has built the biggest, thickest nest I've ever seen.
I'm trying to decide if I should leave the light on tonight, or turn it off? Usually I keep the lights dim for spawns but this pair seems to get the most courting done with the light on. It's so funny because turning off a light can be great for some bettas to spawn, and will put others on a stalemate, and there's no way to tell until after the fact. And by "funny" I mean maddening.
Good luck GT here is hoping.
My pair continue the chase and brake thing. Then the male swims to his spot in the plants... and blows a bubble or two then ignores the starting nest -__-
She just ignores him except to run...
Sounds like they aren't very compatible. How did you condition and introduce them? I had no luck with the hobbyist chimney method, so I use a modified shock method and it works well for me. This male has not stopped building his nest since he started a few days ago. I use petco betta lids for them to build their nest under. It sort of looks like a big bubble and it sticks well to the side of the tank. He keeps blowing bubbles in one area so it's just getting super thick lol.
I used a mixture of live black worms, frozen blood worms, and pellets, 3 times a day. For the last two days I didn't let them see other bettas, except each other for 5 minutes a day. (I half forgot about this step). I then placed him in the tank, and her in the tank in her vase for over night. He flirted with her, and blew a few bubbles, flirted, few bubbles, etc. She danced back at him so this midmorning I released her into the tank. He is being very gentle with her. No nipping, just flaring and chasing. She just runs. He takes breaks to go blow a bubble or two and to rest, then it repeats.
By the time he goes back to blow another bubbles the others have popped.
Should I leave them over night? Or should I pull them? Recondition them, or use my next pair?
Do you have the tank covered and something for the bubbles to stick to?
high humidity helps bubbles stick together. Conditioning sounds good. If I separate the female I always make sure the male blows some kind of decent nest before releasing her, just shows he's for sure interested to me. It sounds like they're kind of in a stalemate. If the females doing fine and the male isn't super tired, I'd just leave them. Maybe they'll figure it out. If this goes on for another day I'd scrap it, personally. You could try a different female with him if you have one.
Otherwise I'd just try the next pair. Sorry, it's really frustrating! :(
Okay, well he was blowing some bubbles for her. I have read of others who have had males start majorly making the nest when the female was introduced.
The humidity is medium, I have a ton of plants and 3 IAL in the tank.
The male takes breaks an rests between the chases, but he seems fine. The female isn't even breathing hard. She doesn't even have a nip on her. As I said he is being beyond gentle with her.
I will begin to seriously condition my other two pairs. I have been only feeding them twice a day like I do all my bettas, just with the live food mix mentioned.
So I guess I will leave them over night to see what happens.
So my other two pair I am considering. Blue marble sibling pair. HM x HMPK (only problem is the female is in the sorority)
Also considering both mustard gas, male is emerald dragon HM the female is blackish CT.
Hey it may be a bit frustrating, but this is my first spawn and I am here to learn.
I would go with the sibling blue pair. Ct x anything other than ct can lead to messy fins which = hard to give away, sell, etc. Or if you are planning to breed for awhile, I say go ahead and then try to refine your fins from there.
The sibling would probably be more likely to spawn and have similar genetics and 180 degree finnage, so they would produce more typically desirable fry.
Yeah I was thinking the sibling pair first.
I do plan on breed for awhile, and actually make it a small side business. I have several LPS/LFS in my area interested in my bettas, and of course there is AB, here and friends haha. I know that is not going to be all, I am well aware I will need to cull, and be ready to work hard with it :P
I am planning on doing the CT/HM cross at some point and am willing to work on the finnage. Take the best few pairs, cull the rest most likely, and sadly(but needed) Refine the fins. Its not often that one sees dragon scale mustard gas halfsuns.