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Old 03-10-2012, 05:21 AM   #1 
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Angry Help my fish!

Hi guys,

Just registered here, whats wrong with the fish?

Syptoms -
Sits at bottom of the tank a lot of the time
Still eats when food is given to him
Appears to have a golden underbelly?

He used to patrol the tops of the water all the time, now he doesnt

I have attached some pictures for your viewing and hope that you can help me save the fish.

http://imageshack.us/g/38/20120209234227.jpg/

Thanks,

Image on the far left is when he was healthy, the other 2 are him now feeling sick.
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:18 AM   #2 
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can u answer these?

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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:52 AM   #3 
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The size is 25L fluval Chi
The temperature is 25 celcius.
The tank has a filter
I don't believe there is aeration as there are no bubles in it - but theres a waterfall that sucks up tank water, and then spits it out the top.
The betta is with 10 other fish, tetra's, phantom fish, cat fish, cherry barbs.

We feed the fish 1 disk of Tetramin on the recommendation of the local fish store. Previously fed the fish bettabio gold. Fed every other day.

Partial water change once per week.
10/20% change
Aqua+ and Cycle by nutrifin

Tested water and according to the kit ammonia was slightly higher than it should be (1 level above safe on our test kit) we use the liquid ones recommended.

I believe he has a gold under belly as shown in the pictures on the link, and his behavious has changed as he is staying close to the bottom and lying on the base of the tank a lot more. Noticed yesterday. There is no history of the fish being ill and no treatment has been given yet. The fish is approximately 6 months old (since we got him)
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:08 AM   #4 
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First, I believe that tank is 5 gallons. 5 is too small for a community tank. If possible, either get a larger tank like a 10, 15, or 20 gal. & QT the betta. What golden underbelly do you mean? I couldn't see it in the pics. Does it look like gold rust? It might be velvet. http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=73332
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:24 AM   #5 
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...310093452.jpg/ can you see the golden colour there? Is this velvet?
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:40 AM   #6 
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I think that tank is about a 6.5gal (roughly, too early to do math).
My guess is you have an over stocked tank and a stressed out boy.
In anything that size the most you should have is a betta and a shrimp or snail.
Or divided for two bettas.

Pet stores give really crappy advice when they see a sale coming. I'd really look into getting a bigger tank, or rehoming the other fish.

If by cat you mean like a cory cat, then they are shoaling fish, and really should be kept in schools of 5 or more to be happy. If however you are talking about a pleco, they grow well over 12 inches, and are not recommended. Unfortunately most of those fish are schooling fish (groups of 5 or more) to be happy and stress free. I'm thinking all your fish are stressed, and that is likely why your betta is clamping and hiding.

I didn't see anything physically wrong from the pictures, but like I said, I suspect he's very stressed.
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:03 AM   #7 
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All the other fish are 2cm/4cm :) so no massive ones. I guess the guys annoyed not having much space. Much like humans. Not very happy that the fish stores clearly fobbed us off! We will look at trying to save him but short of buying a new tank we don't have much choice.

Wont be buying anymore fish for a while then!
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:44 PM   #8 
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Fed him some new food and he's perked up back to normal, I was just worried about the golden colour on his stomach after reading about velvet. Cheers guys
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