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Old 03-14-2012, 02:35 PM   #1 
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Puppy Peeing Problems :s

Alright, so we seem to have a lot of dog people on here, and I'm at a loss. My Dobie Mocha, she's around 14 weeks, enjoys peeing on things. Except it seems more behavioral than needing to pee, I think...

At first, she used to always pee on her dog bed. Annoying, but it was easy enough to wash.. Then it was my bed..

Now last night she moved onto to the basement couch.. She had JUST gone outside and peed her little heart out, then we went back downstairs and she immediately jumped on the couch and peed! Like I did not even see it coming! I always wash the area really well so there's no scent left, also.. She WOULD be fully house trained if not for this, she knows to wait at the door to be let out and everything.. She just likes peeing everywhere she sleeps..

My dad said she's marking her territory, but she's just a puppy! I'm just at a loss at why she's doing it.. Opinions? Solutions?
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:07 PM   #2 
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Unfortunately I don't know of an easy answer. Puppies are wonderful, but each one presents its own challenges.

OK, so this may sound harsh but it's not meant to be...

Barring instances of excitable/submissive peeing, which are a different matter, any dog who pees in the house is not housebroken, and is NOT to be trusted with freedom in the house unless you're watching with an eagle eye. Period.

My suggestions are to use tethering, which is where you use a leash to attach the dog to you so you never give them the opportunity go out of your presence and pee. Also, using a crate or kennel is the best option for when you can't pay 100% attention, or when you are out of the house.

Also, you must make sure that you are removing all traces of the odor, so using an enzyme based product (ie Nature's Miracle) is essential.

Other's may have more or better ideas, but these are some tried and true methods.

Good luck!
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I use natures miracle actually. :3
She did this right in front of me, she usually pees when I'm with her, anywhere that she sleeps.. We never leave her alone.
I could try the tethering but I feel like shed rip me in half LOL. we just started leash training.
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:29 PM   #4 
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Well, if she's doing it right in front of you, then you have the opportunity to correct her. No?
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:31 PM   #5 
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I don't really know how to properly correct her. Everyone says different things.. Yesterday I just yelled no! At her, and took her off the couch and we went outside. She's doing this less and less so maybe shell stop after a few more times?
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Yes, everyone says different things about "corrections", and you can't listen to everyone.

I tend to listen to what others say, then make up my *own* mind based on what I'm comfortable with and what works for me.

The nice thing about tethering is that you already have them leashed so you can immediately a do a "leash pop", which is a quick, non hard/violent tug on the leash, and then get them outside very quickly. The key is timing. You have to correct right when she starts peeing, preferably BEFORE she actually starts.

"Yelling" isn't always helpful, but a firm "no" or whatever you use, can work, mainly to startle her into stopping. Try not to use her name when correcting, but I've found this almost impossible.

Also, don't forget to have a PARTY when she pees outside. And you have to have good timing then too; Don't wait til she's stopped to start praising.

I unknowingly trained my dog to the phrases "find your spot" and "hurry, go potty" by using those phrases every time I took him out. I also used the phrase "are you done?" which taught him we were going inside. It was fun to see the look on his face when I would ask him if he was done and he still had to go. He turned ALL BUSINESS and quickly started hunting for a place to do his bid'ness.

I'm not saying all dogs will learn this, but dogs do like consistency, so they *can* learn that when you use consistent words/phrases.

Yes, hopefully she will stop soon.
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Yea, I try not to use her name but sometimes it comes out. Our other dog knows to pee when we say go pee (in Polish) and she is catching on to this pretty quickly..

Do you train dogs? I have another question.. She is constantly biting our older dog really harshly when they play around, like my older dog has tons of scabs (you can feel them) from her, but the older dog isn't correcting her.. I kind of want her to stop biting the older dog so much, that's the way they play, the old dog knows not to bite hard but she doesn't..
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Thanks, but nah, I don't professionally train, just my own dog, for fun.

Ugh, biting is a tough one. Sigh... in my PERSONAL opinion there are two ways to handle this issue. You can either let them be dogs and sort it out themselves. Or, as pack leader, you can step in to correct the pup by separating them and possibly even putting her in "time out."

Here's a link to some interesting information on Dobe puppy development, from what sounds like a reliable breeder... http://www.doberman.org/articles/puppy.htm
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:03 PM   #9 
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Sparkyjoe is 100% correct in saying -consistency- is the most important thing here. Pick two or three words or sounds and use -only- those. Your pup just isn't house trained yet. Some take time to get good at it, more if they are feeling anxious or confused (too many words used, rebukes she doesn't understand) about what is expected of them.

First - have her vet checked to rule out bladder issues. A pup with a trick bladder won't be 'fixed' by anything but a vet.

That ruled out, try praising her a LOT and maybe even giving her a small treat when she manages to pee outside. It's just as important that you are out there with her, as well, to teach her what's the -right- thing as well as the wrong thing to do.

How much attention is she getting for peeing outside, as opposed to when she pees inside?

Dobies are eager to please, usually, and punishing a puppy more than 10 seconds after they do a wrong thing is totally wasted effort - and will only increase her anxiety (another cause of excessive house peeing), as she'll have no idea what's she's being yelled at for. Not that she should be being yelled at.

How often do you take her out to pee? Every two hours is not abnormal for a pup. Also, watch her carefully for 'signs' she is about to pee (sniffing about, circling, restlessness, seeking corners, whatever her thing is) and swiftly take her out.

Take her out every two hours regardless, and tell her she's a good dog, even if she doesn't pee. Don't play with her or talk to her, just let her sniff around and pee if she needs to. This should not be 'too much hard work' - she is just a pup and her needs have to be met.

I used to use a sharp (NOT loud!) 'bah!" sound to show disapproval, I never used regular 'human' words that the dog might hear a lot in conversation. And then took my pups outside, immediately, even if they weren't 'finished' (lots of paper towelling kept handy!).

Also, for pups that proved harder to train, I'd keep a little paper from the last pee and lay that on top of new paper for the scent, which is where I'd take the pup to pee instead of shoving them outside, which can be overwhelming for some. Every day I moved the paper closer to the door until it was outside, and from there 'outside' was the place to pee.

Patience and watchfulness, and your continual presence is necessary for her to learn what's right and wrong.

I'd suggest joining a local kennel club for puppy classes. Lots of knowledgeable people to talk to, as well as opportunity to help the pup learn important things - socialisation and basic manners, etc. This will help you gain her trust so training at home is easier, too.

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So she's in her dominating stage. Good to know, never was too keen on tug of war with dogs anyways. It makes me feel bad that the puppy is constantly dominating our older dog (biting, jumping, taking food/toys RIGHT from her mouth) and my poor dog just takes it all :/

We started the tethering and it is not going well! She hates not being able to follow the boxer around.. Guess she will have to learn I'm her leader, not the boxer :D
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