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Old 04-22-2012, 09:49 AM   #1 
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New Betta Looks Sad

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i just got a new betta yesterday and i think it looked fine and happy but this morning when i went to check on him he was down in his aquarium and not moving as much. he doesn't want to eat and i don't think he even likes the food. he keeps hiding behind the plant in the aquarium. what can i do to make sure he's happy?

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Old 04-22-2012, 09:57 AM   #2 
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I hear a lot of people around hear describe that as "new tank syndrome", and its fairly normal. As long as you keep your water safe with regular changes, you should be good.
What size tank do you have? Do you have a filter?

I do two 50% changes a week with my 2.5 (w/ filter). Not sure how often or in what amounts other tanks should be changed.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:59 AM   #3 
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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?



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Hello everyone, I wrote this a few years ago as a general guide for myself and friends on DeviantArt. I finally finished revamping it as times have changes since I wrote the original article. The information below is based on years of research and first hand experience but everyone treats illnesses differently. This is just how I do it. There are a number of sources, including VIN (Veterinary Information Network) and BettaTalk.
The Four Most Important Aspects of Betta Care Are:
1) Proper Water Changes
2) Warm Water (78*-82*F)
3) Varied Diet
4) Quarentine New Fish/Plants/Tankmates
If you do these 4 things, you can greatly reduce the chances of your betta getting sick.
Things to keep on hand at all times
•Extra nets and 1 gallon containers
•Aquarium Salt (Aq.Salt)
•Epsom Salt (ES)
•Potassium Permanganate (PP)
•Quarantine tank (QT)
Water Chemistry:
Before you treat your fish for everything under the sun, check the water chemistry. Toxic levels of Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrates are extremely harmful and weaken your betta's immune system resulting in illness. Many petstores will test your water for free. Liquid tests are much more accurate than strip tests.
•If your fish look like they are lethargic, gasping for air or are swimming head down do a water change immediately because they probably have nitrate, nitrite, or ammonia poisoning. Do not use chemicals to remove them as they are ineffective. Prime does remove nitrites/nitrates but it is still most effective to do a water change.
•Extreme pH variation can also cause illness. Sand and porous rocks like sandstone or lava rock make water more basic (>7.0) while Indian almond leaves, peat moss and oak leaves make the water more acidic (<7.0).
•Are there chlorinates in the water? Did you forget to add the water conditioner? If so, quickly add your water conditioner!!
•Many issues can be cured by a simple water change so it should be the first thing you try.

Conservative Treatment Versus Medication:
There are two ways to treat a sick fish. One is the conservative route. It involves increased water changes and (usually) salt treatments. The other route is using medication. There are some illnesses that respond better to medication than water changes and salt, however most illnesses can be cured simply with a bit of TLC and salt. In general, you should always attempt conservative treatment methods before using medicines as medicines can be hard on your fish’s internal organs and over using medicine or not completing the treatment cycle can result in the creation of medicine-resistance bugs.

Therapeutic Additives:There are a number of things you can do for your betta to reduce stress and support their immune system. Indian Almond leaves, tannins, black water extracts, and peat moss pellets are all things that you can add to help prevent illness or help recovery. API Stress Coat and Kordon’s Fish Protector are water conditioners/additives that help slime coat production and skin repair. They can be added at any time your fish shows signs of illness.

Stress
•Symptoms: It’s hard to say for sure. But maybe your betta is lethargic, not eating, hiding, staying in a corner or at the bottom of the tank, he might look a bit pale or dart away when you get close to the tank. It could be a mild infection of some sort though too so be careful.
Treatment/Prevention: If your betta is housed with other fish then isolate him and see if he get better. His tank mates might be harassing him. On the other hand, some bettas become depressed when isolated. Other causes could be too much or too little light, too much current, too much activity near the tank, the temperature might be too low. Try changing things up, move the aquarium to a more isolated area and see if he gets better. Or if he’s on a food strike, offer live foods. If he is lonely, place the tank where he can see other fish. Make sure there are places to hide when he is stressed.
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I hear a lot of people around hear describe that as "new tank syndrome", and its fairly normal. As long as you keep your water safe with regular changes, you should be good.
What size tank do you have? Do you have a filter?

I do two 50% changes a week with my 2.5 (w/ filter). Not sure how often or in what amounts other tanks should be changed.
oh ok then. i was a little worried that he might be sick. my tank is approx 1.5 gallon..is that too small? and i don't have a filter but i change his water very often..or planning to at least. should i add a filter?
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:10 AM   #5 
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You should ideally change it at one 50% and one 100% water change weekly to keep ammonia minimal
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:12 AM   #6 
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Without a filter you need to do 100% water changes, which I don't know anything about. I think 2 gallons is the standard answer for smallest size, but 1.5 is probably fine?
I'm not an expert or anything like Mo up there, so i would recommend filling out that form.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:20 AM   #7 
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Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance
How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
Alkalinity:

Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
When did you start noticing the symptoms?
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
How old is your fish (approximately)?
tank size: 1.5 gallon
temperature: 22 deg celsius
no filter..has aeration
it is heated.
he lives alone

the pellets that i bought for him
twice a day..if he doesn't want to eat he just leaves it

i just got it but i plan to change the water maybe twice a week and add the water conditioner that i got when i bought him every time i change

i havent tested the water but the conditioner says that it will have the required amount of ammonia, nitrite and nitrate, etc.

the appearance and behaviour hasn't changed..he looks a little moody.
i don't know how old he is from the pet shop but i just bought him yesterday

thanks for your help
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Without a filter you need to do 100% water changes, which I don't know anything about. I think 2 gallons is the standard answer for smallest size, but 1.5 is probably fine?
I'm not an expert or anything like Mo up there, so i would recommend filling out that form.
alrighty thank you very much:)
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:29 AM   #9 
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You're very welcome. Hope your fish starts looking better soon.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:43 AM   #10 
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Hmm. I know the exact problem and it is not New Tank Syddrkme. It is a result of the low temperature 22 degrees is about 71-2 degrees Fahrenheit. Bettas are tropical fish and prefer 78-80 degree temperatures. In 71-72 the temperature is dramatically low and the fish will most likely be lethargic
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