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Old 04-21-2012, 10:12 PM   #1 
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Exclamation Bloated betta, please help! -- picture attached

What size is your tank? -- 3 gallons
What temperature is your tank? 76 - 82 degrees
Does your tank have a filter? -- yes
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated? -- yes
What tank mates does your betta fish live with? -- 3 mystery snails and a pleco

What type of food do you feed your betta fish? -- betta pellets, and it snacks on the veggie wafers
How often do you feed your betta fish? -- every other day

How often do you perform a water change? every week
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change? 25%
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change? -- water neutralizer and a few aquarium salt pellets

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?


Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?-- bloated
How has your betta fish's behavior changed? -- no change
When did you start noticing the symptoms? -- a week or so ago, just finished treating it for ick (cured)
Have you started treating your fish? If so, how? -- haven't fed pellets in two days, removed tetra veggie wafter today
Does your fish have any history of being ill? just got over ick disease
How old is your fish (approximately)?

I just saw it give off a substantial amount of waste, so I don't believe it is constipated
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:48 PM   #2 
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Your tank is massively over stocked.
In My Opinion Common Plecos aren't suitable for any tank under 100 gallons long term for a few reasons. They get to be 24 inches long which is very large, they have a very high bio load when fully grown and would have a major impact on all fish within the habitat due to ammonia, males might harras other fish during breeding season that enter his territory, and fully grown adults are known to eat smaller tank mates such as the ones the sizes of neons. They also will literally outgrow your tank

Mystery snails proudce a tremendous amount of waste and will negatively effect any type of living creature in the tank if the proper water changes aren't provided. I would recommend returning this snail as it will spike your ammonia levels

Your water changes don't suffice. In anything less than 5 gallons you should ideally do 1 50% and one 100% water changes weekly to minimize ammonia, and nitrites content. In a A tank of that size you shouldn't have to worry about nitrate/nitrite poisoning as nitrates/nitrites are both a result of bacteria oxidizing ammonia into those substances. Cycling doesn't occur as much in tanks less than 5 gallons. In a tnk upwards of 5 gallons. It has the ability to hold a stable cycle, and depending on the stocking. You should do 25-50% water changes. As 100% changes can slightly impact the cycle

As for the bloating.

Originally Posted by DarkMoon17 View Post
Swim Bladder Disease (SBD)/Bloat
•Symptoms: Betta has trouble swimming, maybe he can’t stay upright and can only swim on his side.
•Treatment: This is not a contagious or fatal illness. If it isn’t congenital (aka a condition that he/she has had since birth), then it is caused by over feeding or feeding the wrong foods. Bettas will typically recover after a day or two of Epsom Salt treatments (1-2tsp/gal) and fasting. You can help prevent a reoccurrence by switching to a better pellet food, feeding less and offering a more varied diet. To make it easier for the betta to eat and breath, you can make the water shallower. You can offer him/her frozen daphnia (sold at Petsmart) as daphnia will help him/her pass stool. DO NOT FEED THEM PEAS.
The Four Most Important Aspects of Betta Care Are:
1) Proper Water Changes
2) Warm Water (78*-82*F)
3) Varied Diet
4) Quarentine New Fish/Plants/Tankmates
If you do these 4 things, you can greatly reduce the chances of your betta getting sick.
Things to keep on hand at all times
•Extra nets and 1 gallon containers
•Aquarium Salt (Aq.Salt)
•Epsom Salt (ES)
•Potassium Permanganate (PP)
•Quarantine tank (QT)
Water Chemistry:
Before you treat your fish for everything under the sun, check the water chemistry. Toxic levels of Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrates are extremely harmful and weaken your betta's immune system resulting in illness. Many petstores will test your water for free. Liquid tests are much more accurate than strip tests.
•If your fish look like they are lethargic, gasping for air or are swimming head down do a water change immediately because they probably have nitrate, nitrite, or ammonia poisoning. Do not use chemicals to remove them as they are ineffective. Prime does remove nitrites/nitrates but it is still most effective to do a water change.
•Extreme pH variation can also cause illness. Sand and porous rocks like sandstone or lava rock make water more basic (>7.0) while Indian almond leaves, peat moss and oak leaves make the water more acidic (<7.0).
•Are there chlorinates in the water? Did you forget to add the water conditioner? If so, quickly add your water conditioner!!
•Many issues can be cured by a simple water change so it should be the first thing you try.

Conservative Treatment Versus Medication:
There are two ways to treat a sick fish. One is the conservative route. It involves increased water changes and (usually) salt treatments. The other route is using medication. There are some illnesses that respond better to medication than water changes and salt, however most illnesses can be cured simply with a bit of TLC and salt. In general, you should always attempt conservative treatment methods before using medicines as medicines can be hard on your fish’s internal organs and over using medicine or not completing the treatment cycle can result in the creation of medicine-resistance bugs.

Therapeutic Additives:There are a number of things you can do for your betta to reduce stress and support their immune system. Indian Almond leaves, tannins, black water extracts, and peat moss pellets are all things that you can add to help prevent illness or help recovery. API Stress Coat and Kordon’s Fish Protector are water conditioners/additives that help slime coat production and skin repair. They can be added at any time your fish shows signs of illness..
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:03 PM   #3 
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Thank you for the information.

My pleco is a clown, which won't get larger than 4 inches. I figured the filter would allow water changes to be less.
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:04 PM   #4 
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No. The tank will not properly cycle in a tank of that size, and if it does, it will be very unstable. Clown Plecos are also unsuitable for a tank of that size. Only one male Betta could fit in there
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Sorry but Mo is right. 1 betta is the only fish you could fit in there.
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