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Should I buy a new filter?

My betta died some days ago because I brought 5 neon tetras from Petco.
I do not know if he died from stress / exhaustion (he was chasing those neons like there is no tomorrow) or if he died of some deadly bacteria I brought with the neons, but I want to start the tank from scratch.
I did not throw anything away but I washed them very well.

My only concern is water filter. It has 2 filters: one glued to the filter, the other a sponge that can be taken out.
Is there any chance for the deadly bacteria to survive in the glued filter?

Now I am drying everything and I plan to start cycling the tank in 2 weeks from now on - to be sure that nothing is alive. But, would drying all the stuff inside be enough?

Thank you for your help.
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If you have the AquaTop PFE series of filters the cartridge slides out and can be thrown away. This from AquaTop:

AquaTop’s FORZA 5-15 Power Filter comes equipped with all the necessary filter media to ensure superior filtration: Mechanical, Chemical & Biological. The 5-15 utilizes a filtration chamber system with replaceable filter sponge cartridges enhanced with AquaTop’s Activated Carbon and Biological Media Trays with maximum surface-area for your beneficial bacteria to colonize and help keep clean water. The FORZA 5-15’s innovative and flexible design is perfect to help you eradicate and control free-floating debris and harmful waste from the aquarium in both freshwater and saltwater.

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If you have the AquaTop PFE series of filters the cartridge slides out and can be thrown away. This from AquaTop:

AquaTop’s FORZA 5-15 Power Filter comes equipped with all the necessary filter media to ensure superior filtration: Mechanical, Chemical & Biological. The 5-15 utilizes a filtration chamber system with replaceable filter sponge cartridges enhanced with AquaTop’s Activated Carbon and Biological Media Trays with maximum surface-area for your beneficial bacteria to colonize and help keep clean water. The FORZA 5-15’s innovative and flexible design is perfect to help you eradicate and control free-floating debris and harmful waste from the aquarium in both freshwater and saltwater.

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I did not know I can take out the white filter.
Is this what I need?
https://www.aquatop.com/products/pfe...arbon-qty-2pcs
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If you have the AquaTop PFE series of filters the cartridge slides out and can be thrown away. This from AquaTop:

AquaTop’s FORZA 5-15 Power Filter comes equipped with all the necessary filter media to ensure superior filtration: Mechanical, Chemical & Biological. The 5-15 utilizes a filtration chamber system with replaceable filter sponge cartridges enhanced with AquaTop’s Activated Carbon and Biological Media Trays with maximum surface-area for your beneficial bacteria to colonize and help keep clean water. The FORZA 5-15’s innovative and flexible design is perfect to help you eradicate and control free-floating debris and harmful waste from the aquarium in both freshwater and saltwater.

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Should I buy the other sponge too>? The one you recommended last time?
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That Aqua Top Forza looks decent and economical! Looks like a HOB? Is the flow adjustable? I'm not sure what type of tanks you guys own for example if you have rim or rimless but sometimes I have issues with my smaller tanks and HOB so I like the option to suction cup. I have some Aqueon E internal filters, I use the 3 gallon and 10 gallon (the smaller 3 gallon doesn't come with sponge but there is space)... The 5 gallon I have I plan to use a mini power filter and a sponge filter. Then, I have a top fin tank which forces me to use a top fin filter that comes with it which isn't all that great but its a smaller tank so I do frequent water changes, the low flow is working for now...I suppose I could use a sponge filter but I don't like the buzzing of the air pump in the bedroom. I don't think I would buy a top fin set up again for being boxed in to using their product.
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@Arrielle1977 : You don't to buy another insert; just use the sponge I recommended. The one you have will be fine once you let it dry out.

@bettatanksalot : These are by far the best filters I've ever used on a Betta tank of any size (including a 2.5). The flow is adjustable down to almost a trickle. That's where I start them out and gradually increase the output as my long-fins gain strength through exercising in the current. Before I started using this HOB I was using internals but go so sick of the suction cups failing I figured "Why not?" I am so glad I did and as much as I like the internals will never go back to them. I have used these on rimmed and rimless tanks with no issues.

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@bettatanksalot : These are by far the best filters I've ever used on a Betta tank of any size (including a 2.5). The flow is adjustable down to almost a trickle. That's where I start them out and gradually increase the output as my long-fins gain strength through exercising in the current. Before I started using this HOB I was using internals but go so sick of the suction cups failing I figured "Why not?" I am so glad I did and as much as I like the internals will never go back to them. I have used these on rimmed and rimless tanks with no issues.[/QUOTE]

My 2.5 and 3 gallons are a hex and round, that looks pretty big i don't know how it could work with the tops fitting either, however my 5.5 and 15 gallon would probably work just fine as they are standard aquariums!
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My 2.5 is 12w x 6l x 8h if that helps.

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@Arrielle1977 : You don't to buy another insert; just use the sponge I recommended. The one you have will be fine once you let it dry out.
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Just to make sure I understood correctly: I should not buy ( replace) any of the 2 filters, right?
When do you think it's safe to start setting the tank again ( filling it with water and start the cycling process?)
I started drying everything 2 days ago.
Would 2 weeks of drying (being off water) would be enough for everything?
I boiled the gravel and dried it in the sun.

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Just to make sure I understood correctly: I should not buy ( replace) any of the 2 filters, right?
When do you think it's safe to start setting the tank again ( filling it with water and start the cycling process?)
I started drying everything 2 days ago.
Would 2 weeks of drying (being off water) would be enough for everything?
I boiled the gravel and dried it in the sun.

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Sorry for so many questions.
Correct: You do not need to buy new cartridges or foam inserts. To help, when we speak of the "filter" we mean the entire thing...the outside casing, motor, etc.

If you are going to get another Betta when you set up the aquarium again you start the cycle immediately using the link I sent you before. Or, you can do something called a "fishless" cycle. I'm not one to speak on a fishless cycle as I've never done one. I always fish-in cycle.

I would think two weeks would be enough.

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