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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-26-2016, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
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Compatibility Problems With My Betta

I currently have a 20 gallon setup with 8 harlequin rasboras, 8 glowlight tetras, 2 nerite snails, and a male betta. While my tetras and rasboras get along swimmingly (ha ha, see what I did there? ), my betta does not. He is a complete coward and the other fish have learned that they can boss him around. Most of the time he hides in the giant log in my tank (unless the other fish want to use it, and then they chase him out), in the corner by my ammonia meter, or just on the bottom of my tank. At times he is too scared of the other fish to eat and I have to drag his worms to the bottom of the tank. Anyway, I hate seeing him so unhappy. I moved him to my small breeding net and he has already begun to perk up (he absolutely loves having his own little space away from the other fish) but obviously such a small container can not serve as a permanent home. I have an empty 1.25 gallon tank in my basement that I can put him in, and I have a heater and filter for it as well. Now, obviously, I could not keep him in there for long but it would be bigger than the net he is living in now and I would be getting him a larger home eventually. So, my question is, should I move him to the smaller tank? Wait until I have a larger one? Just keep him in the breeding net?

P.S. he doesn't seem to have much problem with small spaces. He is totally chill in the breeder net and hasn't shown any indication that he wants to get out (such as swimming against the sides or trying to jump)

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Depending on how long the wait will be, since the current tank is already cycled and he's used to the water, I think it would be best to keep him in the net until you can get a bigger tank. I'd even fishlessly cycle the new tank before moving him, personally.
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I was actually planning on just using some water and silk plants from my 20 gallon in the new tank so I didn't have to cycle. I mean, all of the fish are healthy... but if that doesn't work I can cycle any new tank I put him in.
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I was actually planning on just using some water and silk plants from my 20 gallon in the new tank so I didn't have to cycle. I mean, all of the fish are healthy... but if that doesn't work I can cycle any new tank I put him in.
It's a good way to kick-start the cycle but that won't instantly cycle the tank. The majority of the bacteria is in the filter and even if you moved the filter media to the new tank, it's still a kick-start, not an instant cycle. Really, I'm just saying he'll be OK in the breeder net for a while and I suspect he'll do better there than taking a risk with the smaller bowl.
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Ok, I see. Thanks! :)
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It can take weeks to cycle. But as you've mentioned in your other post in D&E, he's tearing his fins in the breeder net. So putting him in the 1.25 gallon would be preferable to the breeder net. If you're using the filter a 25% water change two or three times a week and removing waste in between will suffice.

Many Betta cannot handle the activity of a shoal. That's why it's so very important to densely plant a community tank. Most think in terms of it being good for the smaller fish but Betta benefit, too.

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Like what russel said, Plants help the bettas too! My Red girl lives in a 40g with four schools of fish species and a herd of shrimp, she spends a lot of time in the grass and my red sword plant foraging for fallen food. Red doesn't bother or get bothered by the schools, but she has her plants to hide in.
Your betta may also have a fear of open spaces, some bettas prefer small tanks, but that's only a small possibility.
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ok so sorry I didn't reply sooner (I forgot my password... again...) but here is the current situation. The fish have been ignoring Marble for the most part, but they still nip occasionally. I am most definitely getting another tank by the end of the month, so once I get it I will cycle it and put him in. I'm sure he'll enjoy having a tank to himself, especially since I'll be keeping it in my room. :)

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You can cycle the tank with Marble in it. It's called fish-in and is all I ever do. All you need is a Master Test kit and Prime.

https://www.bettafish.com/30-betta-fi...-tutorial.html

People mistakenly thing a heavily planted tank is to help protect the other fish when it is also to help the Betta retreat if being harrassed. This is an example of what I mean by "heavily planted." Can you post a photo of your entire tank?

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Unfortunately, I can't post a photo of my tank right now. :/ But it was pretty heavily planted. I actually just re-scaped my tank a bit earlier, though, so now all my plants are some lovely amazon swords, baby water wisteria, and some silk plants. So right now there isn't a lot of cover but Marble has a big fake log he hides in that the other fish won't touch, and they seem to bother him much anymore. But I'm definitely getting a new tank in a few weeks so I will be moving him soon.

As for cycling, I got some live bacteria and I have a second filter running in my tank so when I move Marble in I'm gonna kickstart the whole process with the bacteria and filter. :P Very excited because I will get to have my little guy in my room with me!
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