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IME and IMO, a five is too small for anything but a Betta and one Mystery Snail. More Mystery Snails are fine if you are an experienced enough keeper to recognize if things are going south for the snails. And you must supplement feed; especially calcium. And they not only do not eat poop, they create a great deal of it so frequent water changes with substrate vacuum are a must.

Shrimp are inappropriate unless the tank is at least two months past cycling and so heavily planted you cannot see your Betta by just glancing at the tank. Shrimp are extremely sensitive to parameter changes so frequent, small water changes are most important; without enough planting they will stress and become compromised. I know, people will give testimony they are doing so but you should be able to brag you've had shrimp in an inappropriate habitat for years; not just a few weeks or a month or two.

The only other fish that would work in a five require specialized care and live and frozen food. No shoaling variety will work if kept in a proper shoal of at least six. Also keep in mind a five gallon tank only holds a bit over three gallons of water once you account for decor, substrate and equipment.

I always advise a back-up plan whenever one is considering tank mates. Even Mystery Snails can have there eye stalks removed by an overly aggressive Betta. There are plenty of post about it on this Forum or if one Googles.

Finally, tank makes are for us; not the Betta. They remain healthy and active without them. If you really want tank mates other than a Mystery Snail, go up to at least a 10 gallon.
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I am getting some shrimp. Thanks for your help

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Make sure to let us know what kind. I enjoy my Red Sakura shrimp immensely.

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If your concerned about the intake of the filter you could always put a light wrap of sponge over the strainer. The color of the shrimp doesn't really matter. It's having enough plants and hides for them to get away from the betta. And depending on how the betta reacts to them as tank mates, Some betta will leave them alone, some betta will live a peaceful life with them. Depends on the betta. As for the shrimp it depends on if the betta really wants a snack.
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I am wanting to get red cherry shrimp or ghost ( I'd prefer cherry so I can see them better) How big do red sakura shrimp get?
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Red Sakura, Orange Sakura, etc., are darker than regular Neos like RCS.

Can you post a photo of your tank? Might be able to tell if it's as appropriate a habitat for shrimp as it is for a Betta. The things I said about shrimp in Post #11 were to ensure your success. And if you follow those rules, i.e., cycled, mature tank, etc., you will enjoy keeping shrimp for years.

As I said, if you are successful you will really enjoy them. One of my favorite tanks was shrimp-only. I never realized how incredibly active and acrobatic they are until I kept a species-only tank. Doesn't mean I won't still have them in my Betta-base community tanks, though.

Below are links to two articles I think you will find interesting..

Shrimp Keeping - Nanocaridina

Know your TDS (Total Dissolved Solids).High TDS prevents invert molting because it causes the carapace to become unnaturally hard. If you see shrimp darting backwards check your TDS. You can find TDS meters almost anywhere but I bought mine on eBay.
TDS 101 for the Freshwater Aquarium | ShrimpFever

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As usual @RussellTheShihTzu has offered some great advise.

Looking at your other thread I don't think you're planted enough.
IMO you need a lot more carpeting plants and foreground plants.
I have a variety of Neocardina Shrimp and mine love
- Cladophora Aegagrophila (Marimo Balls)
- Eleocharis Acicularis
- Eleocharis Parvula
- Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis
- Staurogyne Repens (regular cutting required to keep small and bushy)

Here is one of my shrimp jars, usually stays on the windowsill with no additional tech (no light, filter or heater) and typically it is planted different to what I listed, but this for me is the minimal level of planting for shrimp :D
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Thank you guys! Not sure if im going to do shrimp... Needs to be "heavily planted" which im not sure I want. I am goimg to get a snail though. If i get a snail and then I decide i want shrimp when my tank has matured, can i have both? Note** i think by betta is not fully grown yet, and he has never flared and swims pretty slow, so I dont think he would try to eat the shrimp.

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Depends on your betta. I've kept nerite snails with both of mine, but both bettas have constantly nipped at their antennae, so they stay short. The snails seem fine besides that, but I still feel a little bad haha. Mine would definitely find a way to eat all the shrimp if I put them in there.
Not all bettas will like tank mates, and unfortunately the only way to find out is to put some in there. If your betta is too aggressive, then take them out haha.
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Thank you guys! Not sure if im going to do shrimp... Needs to be "heavily planted" which im not sure I want. I am goimg to get a snail though. If i get a snail and then I decide i want shrimp when my tank has matured, can i have both? Note** i think by betta is not fully grown yet, and he has never flared and swims pretty slow, so I dont think he would try to eat the shrimp.

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Yes you can have both Shrimp and Snails but it will depend on the temperament of your fish.
Of my 4 permanent fish I keep RCS and Amano with Three. All 4 have had a snail of some description
Kojin doesn't like to share so he is on his own in a 8G Palace

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