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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-01-2019, 12:43 PM Thread Starter
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Hello I have a cycled 29 gallon and am debating on attempting to place a betta in it, currently all that is in it are 7 Kuhli Loaches which I’m sure won’t bother him as they are bottom dwellers, black, and don’t even look like fish. But I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on other tankmates. I do have a 5 and a 10 gallon that he could be removed into as I had Bettas in them before.
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Is this tank a planted and if so how heavy. With any other tank mates there must be ample places to hid and plants high enough for a betta to rest. No Barbs, No larger tetra than neon's and a nice size shoal if those are added. Rasbora are quite peaceful and most are Quite stunning in a shoal. Any tank mates you do get must have enough places to hide. Once the tank is established Shrimp would be a good idea also.

However if it were me I would go to the 5.5 or 10 gallon and leave him by him self. Plus the fact and it depends on the betta, may not like the space of a 29. With out a lot of cover it might stress him out. There are some betta that like only smaller tanks that 5.5 gal also. All of my betta are housed in 5.5 gal. tanks and those tanks are heavily planted, and only one of my betta has a tank mate. (one male Guppy) It took this betta about 4 days to settle in to a 5.5 with a tank mate But he has and all is quite calm.
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It is planted, driftwood with Anubis and java fern attached. A large amazon sword and several anacharis stems that are growing rapidly. There are also several hiding places in the form of a cichlid rock type decor and a tower decor that can be hidden behind. It is also tannin stained from the driftwood(intentional)
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Can you post a photo of the tank? That will help us give you ideas on what you can do with it. I like Betta-based community tanks and over the years have only had, maybe, 1% of Betta that didn't suit community life; and that is out of hundreds.

Do you have preferences for companion fish? I like Ember Tetra, Endler's Livebearers (males-only), Dwarf Panda Guppies (males only), smaller Rasbora like Chili, Merah, Mosquito, etc., Pygmy or Habrosus Cory. I love Neons but only house them with Plakats as I have found them the most nippy of the smaller Tetra. However, I have found shoals of 15-20 help keep the nipping within the shoal.

I have always suggested a minimum of six Nano fish in a shoal with more being better. However, not long ago I asked Rachel O'Leary (Msjinkzed on YouTube) about shoal size when housed with a predator and she said no fewer than 8-10 for the health and longevity of the Nano fish. So I have changed my advice. This is for mid-tank dwellers; not bottom.

No fish larger than a Betta in body, no skirted Tetra. It is best to avoid Gourami, especially larger ones, as they are labyrinth fish and will fight the Betta to the death over the same territory.

As you have a back-up you should be fine.

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I love ember tetras, Harlequin Rasboras, glowlight tetras, black neon tetras, cherry barbs, pristella tetras, rummynose(although I’ve heard they can be finnicky) and most other small fish. Particularly any that are red, black, white or a combo of those colors. Here’s some pictures of different sections of the tank. And of course my kuhlis that are already in there but most things are ok with them(they are under the sand )
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Oh and I am perfectly happy with a male or female betta. I’ve heard females can be less aggressive.
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For the comfort of the Betta, you would need a lot more planting because they need a place to retreat. Actually, Betta alone need heavy planting as they are low-light, shade-loving fish. One line about Betta is "If you can see your Betta at a glance you don't have enough plants."

I like to weight stem plants like Hornwort or Narrow Leaf Anacharis in bunches and place in corners; letting the excess flow over the water line to provide shade and shelter.

Here is one of my tanks from a few years ago to show you what I mean. You can still see my fish and inverts because the heaviest planting is along the sides and back. This was before I trimmed the Soft Hornwort (Ceratophyllum submersum).

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Oh, and I like females as well but I haven't found them less aggressive. I've never had a sorority; only single females as the "iffiness" of sororities isn't for me.

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Yeah it’s a semi new tank so the plants haven’t grown in fully yet, I know the amazon and the anacharis will get large so I didn’t want to put so many they couldn’t get any food. I garden a lot and I know other plants choke others out if too close but I’m not sure if the same rule applies to aquariums.
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If you have substrate tabs they don't seem to; depends on what kind of root system they develop. Some are fairly small and others humongous. I weighted down some Anubias and when I redid the tank I was stunned at how their roots had spread...without disturbing those around it. I understand Dwarf Tiger Lilies are the worst at choking out other plants.

The Anacharis and most stem plants do not develop invasive root systems. My rooted stem plants self-root....just about the time I decide to rescape. I know you don't have it but Hornwort has no root system so cannot be planted. A lot of people kill it and don't know why.

I like Niloc substrate and water column ferts.

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Awesome, I use flourish root tabs. My lfs has mondo grass, wisteria, white ribbon, java fern, anubias, dwarf hairgrass, bacopa, Amazon, temple compacta, bamboo, and rotala I think is how you spell it.
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