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I have a 10 gallon tank, and i would like to put my white opal betta in the tank i have i have 1 female guppy, 3 neon tetras, 1 black neon tetra, 1 cherry barb but i pulled it out because i read they are fin nippers. I also have a cory catfish and a otocinclus am i okay to put my betta in the tank? PLEASE REPLY
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Hello, and welcome to the forum!

I don't recommend cories other than pygmy in 10 gallon tanks, most species get bigger and need at least a 20 gallon long for suitable footprint.
Neon tetras in my opinion aren't great either due to the temperature indifferences, and they can nip as well, but people will suggest them anyways.

You have a lot of schooling fish that lack a school, and they need a larger tank than ten gallons, so I wouldn't put a betta in this tank unless you move the barb, tetras, and cories.
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Guppies, neon tetras, black neon tetras, cherry barbs, otos and cory cats are all shoaling species. This means they should be kept in groups of 6 or more. Often 10 or more. This is so that they feel safe and comfortable. They are all social creatures. Keeping them without members of their own species will make them nervous, more likely to hide, and less likely to display their natural swimming and eating behaviours. They are healthier and live longer lives when they have a shoal to be safe with.

Your 10 gallon is only big enough for a small shoal of tiny fish like ember tetras (which would be compatible with a betta). It is too small for a decent sized shoal of any of the other fish you have.

Ideally, you could get a much bigger tank, more than 50 gallons, read up on the natural shoal sizes of each of your fish, build a natural habitat for them in your tank (plant cover, water chemistry, temperature and so on) then buy enough fish of each species that they will be happy in their ‘family groups’ and make a shoal. That would encourage them to live long, healthy, happy lives.

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Hello, and welcome to the forum!

I don't recommend cories other than pygmy in 10 gallon tanks, most species get bigger and need at least a 20 gallon long for suitable footprint.
Neon tetras in my opinion aren't great either due to the temperature indifferences, and they can nip as well, but people will suggest them anyways.

You have a lot of schooling fish that lack a school, and they need a larger tank than ten gallons, so I wouldn't put a betta in this tank unless you move the barb, tetras, and cories.
You can take this as gospel. All but your Betta need a larger tank and a bigger shoal.
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Guppies, neon tetras, black neon tetras, cherry barbs, otos and cory cats are all shoaling species. This means they should be kept in groups of 6 or more. Often 10 or more. This is so that they feel safe and comfortable. They are all social creatures. Keeping them without members of their own species will make them nervous, more likely to hide, and less likely to display their natural swimming and eating behaviours. They are healthier and live longer lives when they have a shoal to be safe with.

Your 10 gallon is only big enough for a small shoal of tiny fish like ember tetras (which would be compatible with a betta). It is too small for a decent sized shoal of any of the other fish you have.

Ideally, you could get a much bigger tank, more than 50 gallons, read up on the natural shoal sizes of each of your fish, build a natural habitat for them in your tank (plant cover, water chemistry, temperature and so on) then buy enough fish of each species that they will be happy in their ‘family groups’ and make a shoal. That would encourage them to live long, healthy, happy lives.
This information being given to you is coming from some of the most experienced keepers here on the forum.
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I have a 10 gallon tank, and i would like to put my white opal betta in the tank i have i have 1 female guppy, 3 neon tetras, 1 black neon tetra, 1 cherry barb but i pulled it out because i read they are fin nippers. I also have a cory catfish and a otocinclus am i okay to put my betta in the tank? PLEASE REPLY
What everyone has said about the importance of shoals, tank size, etc., is true. And great information for future. However, you need to work with what you have at the moment.

With that in mind, if it were my tank and I wanted to add a Betta I would:

Rehome or put the following in another tank: The Cory, the Black Neon Tetra and the Cherry Barb. Then I would get five more Oto and five more Neons. Watch closely and if there is any sign of nipping by the Neons I would move my Betta.

When determining how many shoals there can be in a smaller tank note whether the inhabitants are bottom, mid or top dwellers. The Oto are bottom, Neons are mid and Betta top. Filtration is important, too. Do you know what's your filter? You just might need to go up; but maybe not.

Planting the tank as heavily as you can with live or silk plants will help, too. Perhaps, at some time in the future, you can get a 20 long tank (my favorite size). That would allow you to add to your current shoals or introduce more species.

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