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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-27-2019, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
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What a lovely surprise

So I was rearranging a tank yesterday to get it set up for a new male I have. There were no rocks and such since I used it for breeding two of my kois a couple weeks back. I thought my male had eaten all the eggs once they'd hatched but somehow one of the fry managed to hide in the filtration system (it was off) where the dad was too big to get in! I now have a single fry from that spawn and I'm amazed it's managed to survive in the tank! It mustve still been hiding in the filter beecause I've been housing a pair of swords in the tank till my brother can get his tank ready for them. It's quite big and is only about four weeks, it's almost always back behind the tank in the filter so I'll have to figure out how to feed it but im so excited one one survived and can't wait till his colors show up (he's already got a splash of black at the base of his tail)
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Congrats on the find! If you can, I'd pull him out as soon as possible since you're struggling to find a way to feed him.
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Yeah, I'm just nervous to put him in another tank incase the waters too different, i mmight just pull him outta the filter and block it off though...

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So i blocked up the filter and it's starting to get a bit less timid in the tank now that he's realised theres no one else home. And! I GOT IT TO EAT!! I was able to shave some ice off some frozen mysis shrimp and put it in some water, then I used an eye dropper to put the tiniest bit into the water above the fry and I was able to see the little fry suck up the tiny particles! Its so fast! Like one second its there and the next it's gone! Im so happy this worked since i was quite nervous the little cutie would only accept live right now and my microworms aren't ready (i redid the culture after the spawn 'failed' since it wasn't looking the best)
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Congratulations on being a new parent!

Something similar happened to me with the cherry barbs in my 18 US gallon tank.
I knew they had spawned because of all the flirting.
But it never crossed my mind that any had survived - then weeks later I spotted some little flashes of red in the mosses. 4 of them had survived. Heaven knows what they had eaten, but as soon as I knew they were there I started dropping in Repashy paste food, and they have all flourished. As far as I can tell (it is still too early) they are all girls, but one is nearly twice the size of the others.

I expect you will have a special bond with this one, whether it is a girl or a boy. :)

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Thanks bluesamphire &#x1f642;
Well we've run into a problem: it has ich somehow&#x1f621; ich is literally the bane of my existence. I hate it... I dont know what to do, I noticed the little white speck yesterday thinking it might be some color but then later i watched the fry brush up against the rocks in the tank and realised it was not color but in fact pure evil. I medicated the tank but I'm nervous the fry might not take to it since its still so small and might not be able to handle that, it's herbal so hopefully it wont be AS bad but im still pretty worried about it... What do you think I should do?

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Haha! White spots are all gone and the fry is happily swimming around his tank and has been eating well today. Got some frozen brine shrimp to add to the mysis shrimp and have been giving the fry a drop every few hours or so and I've added a Cory cat and some pond snails to the tank for cleanup (since corys seem to be immune to ick from my experience and I have an abundance of the snails so im not too worried if one or two dies, as bad as that sounds &#x1f62c;). Am gonna continue to treat the tank for the rest of the 7 day just to be safe. Also added a clump of duckweed for the fry to have some coverage near the top of the thank. The fry is starting to show more color too and it gets quite excited when I shine my light into the tank for mealtime!! Resized_20190627_113137_1561762562573.jpeg 20190628_160312_1561762596419.jpg Resized_20190628_161733_1561762550154.jpg Resized_20190627_113223_1561762636618.jpg

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ich is a pain.
Don't be lulled into a false sense of security. It won't have gone.
Different parts of the life cycle are visible, and others are invisible.

So don't let up on the treatment, or allow it to dilute with water changes, until you are sure that the whole lifecycle has been dealt with.
https://www.fishkeeping.co.uk/articl...white-spot.htm

Hope that helps!

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22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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Thanks I just learned alot! Does that mean that ich is not, in fact, csused by overstressing fish? I've heard this at the pet store time and time agaon but if its a parasite i don't see how stress would play a role.

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As i understand it, ich is a parasite that gets on board when the fish is stressed and feeling under the weather because of the stress.

A bit like how humans are more likely to catch a cold or develop a coldsore when they are run down and stressed.

Fish can get stressed by a lot of things - temperature fluctuations, too little or too much food, poor water conditions. So ich can be in the tank for a while, but it doesn’t get a hold and affect the fish until stress makes the fish susceptible. Hope that makes sense.

Once you have ich appear on your fish, it is always a good idea to think back to what the circumstances were that could have triggered the outbreak, and then try to avoid those particular circumstances again.

70litre tank: mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, male guppies, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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