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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-25-2013, 08:43 PM
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It's all relative to that which you are comparing.
oh okay. I wouldn't keep a three spot in a 5 gallon though...That would be pushing it pretty hard.

In a community tank, gouramis need a lot of space to establish their territory. In a single specimen tank, three spots (gold, opaline, cosby, etc) tend to not be relatively active, because they have nothing to "chase off". Since the larger, healthier specimens kept in aquaria reach about 5 inches, a ten gallon gives them four body lengths swimming room and two body lengths on the sides, which is sufficient. Smaller adults will obviously have more swimming room.

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I'm not sure how 4 body lengths make it an appropriate home. I can't imagine it would be very active, or interesting to watch for that matter, in such a small tank. I honestly don't know what kind of enjoyment one would get from doing so. But that's me. We all have to decide for ourselves how much space our fish need to swim.

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Well my brother's pair that he gave me were at least 4-5 inches from head to tail.

I moved them out into a 3ft tank and they used quite a lot of that swimming around. They weren't as active as a schooling or shoaling fish, but they didn't just sit in one spot either.


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Well my brother's pair that he gave me were at least 4-5 inches from head to tail.

I moved them out into a 3ft tank and they used quite a lot of that swimming around. They weren't as active as a schooling or shoaling fish, but they didn't just sit in one spot either.
Yeah, 4-5 inches sounds about right, and those were probably healthy ones too...but see that was a pair...so they need 3ft so they can have their own space and then some...and they were probably a bit more active because there were two.

Jaysee...I was just using body lengths as a unit of measurement -to give a visual. We often give betta fish, for example, less room than that with no problems, but three spots aren't quite as naturally "chill" as bettas, although they are still calm when not given any "competition".

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We often give betta fish, for example, less room than that with no problems, but three spots aren't quite as naturally "chill" as bettas, although they are still calm when not given any "competition".
Not me

An absence of "problems" doesn't necessarily make something okay. My point of view is that of viewing pleasure, not of possible problems. That's all - different things are important to different people. Doesn't make anyone categorically right or wrong.

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Is the OP even debating keeping a three-spot gourami in a 10 gallon? I kind of skimmed the first couple posts and saw they mentioned dwarf gourami.

To respond to your statement Finnfinnfriend, I don't agree with keeping bettas in small tanks long-term either.

My goldfish are in a too small tank (being remedied once our renovations are done) and when they spook they smash into the glass quite hard because it doesn't take them much effort to reach the other side of the tank.


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Is the OP even debating keeping a three-spot gourami in a 10 gallon? I kind of skimmed the first couple posts and saw they mentioned dwarf gourami.

To respond to your statement Finnfinnfriend, I don't agree with keeping bettas in small tanks long-term either.

My goldfish are in a too small tank (being remedied once our renovations are done) and when they spook they smash into the glass quite hard because it doesn't take them much effort to reach the other side of the tank.
I don't believe in keeping a betta in a 1 gallon, if that counts for anything, however, I don't criticize someone who does and does it properly...The OP was just interested in gouramis in general and has a ten gallon tank.

I think many people don't think about single specimen tanks because most people don't want them - they often want a community or at least a species tank (with several specimens). Often people think of and know about requirements for fish within a community because that is almost always how they are kept. Therefore when someone hears about being able to keep this or that by itself in this or that size tank - it sounds wrong. I agree that if you want a three spot with anyting else, whether it be another three spot, some tetras, even some shrimp, etc....a ten gallon is entirely unacceptable.

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Yeah... I guess I was kind of hoping for more advice on the dwarf gouramis... But, I figured it out on my own.
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