Urgent!!!!!!!! Need help! - Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care
Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By NickAu
  • 1 Post By NickAu
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-12-2016, 06:02 PM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 7
Urgent!!!!!!!! Need help!

hey guys! Okay so I haven't had a betta in a few months (Ish died tragically when a long hair of my mother's fell into the tank and wrapped around his fins and body, suffocating him) but I do have two large goldfish, each 2" long, and a tetra 1" long, and two cleaner snails. The fish have been sitting at the bottom for the last few days, so I checked online and it said there might be an ammonia spike. Immediately I changed out the water by 50%, changed out the filter, and will not be feeding them tomorrow. I don't have an ammonia test kit. Goldfish, like bettas, will sometimes take air manually from the top of the tank, dipping above water. Resting them gently on my hand, I took Sosuke and Ponyo (the goldies) up to the top and let them rest, tipping their mouths above water. They are both sluggish, Sosuke more so than Ponyo. Baby, the tetra, is fine since the watr change and is zipping around the tank. Both snails seem fine.
[B]What should I do??[B] I'm so scared for them, what can I do to help? Should I get more cleaner fish? Should I move the fish to a clean tank while I clean out the old one (i don't think i should do that, it might kill them)? Please please help me!
IshtheFish is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-12-2016, 06:38 PM
Member
 
NickAu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,768
Hi
Yes its most likely ammonia. You need to get a test kit.

How are you treating the water? Seachem Prime is great and will help with ammonia.

How big is the tank?

Tetras should be kept in groups of 6 minimum.

There are no such thing as cleaner snails.
LittleStar likes this.
NickAu is offline  
post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-12-2016, 07:00 PM
TFK Moderator
 
RussellTheShihTzu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 18,059
I am moving to "Other Fish."

Please fill out this form; it will help a great deal. You may be repeating some information from above but it helps us to have it all in one place.

https://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=612810

My 60-Year Aquarium and 53-Year Betta Addictions
https://www.bettafish.com/144-journa...addiction.html

If your dog thinks you are the greatest do not seek a second opinion

Last edited by RussellTheShihTzu; 01-12-2016 at 07:43 PM.
RussellTheShihTzu is offline  
 
post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-12-2016, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 7
Housing: Glass tank with gravel substrate, plus two moss balls and fake coral
How many gallons is your tank? 10
Does it have a filter? yes
Does it have a heater? yes
What temperature is your tank? 75
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? no
Does your Betta have tank mates? What kind? The tetra died within hours of posting. 2 snails

Food: goldfish flakes
What food brand do you use?
Do you feed flakes or pellets? flakes
Freeze-dried?
How often do you feed your goldfish? How much? once a day, light sprinkling

Maintenance:
Before your Betta became ill how often did you perform a water change? once a month
What percentage of water did you change? 50%
Do you vacuum the substrate or just dip out water? dip out
What additives do you use? none; our well water is charcoal filtered and pure

Water Parameters: no idea
What are your water parameters? Please give exact numbers. If tested by pet store please get exact numbers. "Fine" or "Safe" won't help us help you.

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness (GH):
Alkalinity (KH):

Symptoms and Treatment:
When did you first notice the symptoms? yesterday
How has your Betta’s appearance changed? not at all
How has your Betta’s behavior changed? from mildly active to sluggish and resting
Is your Betta still eating? yes
Have you started treating your Betta? If so, how? no
Does your Betta have any history of being ill? no
How long have you owned your Betta? Was he or she a rescue? about a week and a half
IshtheFish is offline  
post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-12-2016, 08:08 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Canada
Posts: 66
You should test all parameters in your water, not just ammonia.

You also should be doing a water change way more often than once a month. Goldfish produce a lot of waste, they probably are being poisoned by ammonia. Or the general water conditions and cleanliness is very poor.
Also, not sure what kind of goldfish you have, but I believe most if not all can grow to be pretty big, like 6-8 inches. Right now they are 2 inches but they will get bigger. You will need a bigger tank at some point, most likely. In a 10 gallon they won't even be able to turn around when they get to full size.

If ammonia does test high, keep doing water changes every 1-2 days until it clears. For regular maintenance you should be changing the water, about 50%, weekly, then add something to reduce ammonia.

And yes, the tetra needs friends.

I think you might want to invest in some basic tank care supplies: test kits, a vacuum (scooping out the old water does not clean the food and fish waste buried in the gravel), a bottle of beneficial bacteria.

Last edited by Carrot Nose; 01-12-2016 at 08:16 PM.
Carrot Nose is offline  
post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-12-2016, 08:14 PM
Member
 
NickAu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,768
Quote:
How many gallons is your tank? 10
That is way to small for goldfish. You need to put them in a bigger tank.
Ideally 20 gallon for the first fish, then 10 gallons for every fish after. 2 gold fish 30 gallon tank.

Quote:
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? no
I think you should run an air stone.
LittleStar likes this.
NickAu is offline  
Reply

Tags
ammonia spike , dying fish , need help , please help , urgent

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome