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post #11 of 74 (permalink) Old 10-13-2017, 12:06 AM
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Great, thanks! I heard from my sister that I can get seafood from our local food stores too. Like kinds of shellfish but all of them were way too large for Copter unless I did chop them down for him to eat. My sister used to have a puffer fish and she is envious I have a F8 puffer. LOL

I will look for frozen Krill for sure. I think I saw some at my LFS downtown, if not I can buy some online. I need to buy some frozen mice for my snake too anyway. =P



15 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, 5 harlequin rasboras, 5 neon green Rasboras, Clown pleco, Shrimp.
10 gallon: 2 betta's and a snail
10 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, two Guppies and 6 Panda loaches and shrimp.
5 gallon: Red Cherry Shrimp and snails
5 gallon tank: WIP tank
37 gallon: 2 F8 Puffers 7 bumblebee gobies.
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Im going to follow! I don't have a puffer yet but I'm hoping to get a pea puffer. In the future I'd love to have a F8 or GSP but I'm not comfortable with mixing stuff into water yet.

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@Tree AWESOME!^^

I live right SMACK in the middle of Texas so sea food is SO PRICEY... T^T
(Which is a shame. I'm half Puerto Rican, and fruit and seafood is like... 75% of a Puerto Rican's diet. Both me, and my puff are suffering for it, lol).


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AND SO WE MEET AGAIN! Lol.^^

Tree has Pea-Puffer experience, and will probably be more help then me. From what I can tell, however, F8 and GSP care is very simmular, F8's are just less aggressive, and can be more easily housed with other brakish water fish.
My adorable and very dear Poofy, however, has proovin to be prone to VIOLENCE on the rare occasion that he get's bored with his bubbles, so I'd rather not risk it.

Since I was originally unaware of Puff aggression and care, (And he did the UNTHINKABLE and nommed upon the fins of my mother's fish), he wound up exiled from the family community tank, and I had to throw together a NEW tank lat minute. Having had a huge die-off due to water problems, and having had my last remaining betta accidentally killed by my fish-sitter while I was visiting my sister in her new college a month before, all my tanks where stored away and I had to dig out the pieces and put them together. My old heater finally gave out, so I had to buy a new one etc.
So he's in a very small betta tank currently.
He's going to get an upgrade...alas, my parents/landlords have banned me from having such a "large" tank as a 30 gallon, and won't even let me buy a 20 gallon for him until he's 6 inches.
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(I have purchased a 20 gallon anyways for a sorority...I'm trying to make sure Poofy get's the largest amount of space i can give him as well...however, it is a slow process. However, I do 1/3 waterchanges every other day, and over filter Poofy's tank to make sure it's as clean as possible. Puffs actually enjoy the heavy flow, and have very strong tails that are built for such things.)
SO my plan is to keep doing all this work, and when I get him to 4 inches, convince them I need a PROPERLY SIZED TANK, or move out and buy him one. Whichever comes first. XD
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I'm building a 10' long shelving system out of 4"x4"s and cinderblocks. It will have 2 20 longs, 2 de-rimmed (top only) 15s, two 10s, and 2 5.5s. If I'm sneaky I can put three extra 4x4s on the top and add two or three 20G longs on the top. If not I'll still get a third 20, because I want a B. Hendra pair. I could always divide one of the 20s for Kai if he recovers or I could divide on for the puffer.

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That ROOM Though. O0O

Soooo many tanks!
Please give me your space. X'D

I'll let Tree give you Pea-Puff advice since I'm afraid I'll get something wrong. X'D

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LOL. It's not it a room, it's my parents garage! Unfortunately I'm going to college in two years, but these shelves are easily taken apart and moved/stored. The 4x4s are 10 feet long, but they could be cut in half for even easier storage. TBH I haven't measured the space yet so I might have to downsize and add another shelf on the top anyways, but it will have the same number of tanks. Yout should go check out themamaj and her fish room. It is to die for!

ETA: the shelves are also 16" off the ground so I have storage and potential space for plastic tubs for ponds underneath. I believe I can fit 6 17 gallon tubs ynder there but I would have to check.

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sorry for not replying this whole weekend, I was camping! =D

Anyway glad to have you watching the thread ThatFishThough!

Friday I went and bought some frozen krill and MY GOD they STINK! haha! Copter loved it though.

as for changing the water to brackish, it is very scary but once you read into it and all the things for turning fresh into brackish, it's really easy. You can still have your good bacteria while you change the water slowly once a week into brackish. I will send some more photos your way later tomorrow of Copter and Bein. maybe even tonight if they are up for the lights being back on for a bit. haha

for pea puffers, they are the easiest things to keep and they are fresh water puffs! Though you do need to make sure the water is completely cycled. Like all puffers they have no scales and any type of ammonia or nitrite spike will hurt them. Pea puffers are messy things as well, like all puffers. My little Bein is a snot though and will only eat blood worms, but small snails, blood worms and shrimp work well for food for them. If you want to keep just one in a tank, a 5 gallon or more is best. If you want to keep more than 1 in a tank, 3 gallons per pea puffer is the rule due to them being VERY messy things. 3 puffers in a 10 gallon works best. They like lots of cover because they are smaller than other puffers and are more fragile. I read that they are like a female betta sorority tank and the more cover means the less fights that break out from them.

there are other puffers that are fresh water only:
Amazon puffers
Red eye puffer
Fahaka puffer
Target puffer
Avocado Puffer

I have read a lot of these types of puffers but they need a lot more than 20 gallons. more like 30 plus!

hope this helps!



15 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, 5 harlequin rasboras, 5 neon green Rasboras, Clown pleco, Shrimp.
10 gallon: 2 betta's and a snail
10 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, two Guppies and 6 Panda loaches and shrimp.
5 gallon: Red Cherry Shrimp and snails
5 gallon tank: WIP tank
37 gallon: 2 F8 Puffers 7 bumblebee gobies.
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As promised, Copter! His light was still on so I snapped a few shots of him with his full krill tummy.





I didn't get Bien photos, she was sleeping. =)



15 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, 5 harlequin rasboras, 5 neon green Rasboras, Clown pleco, Shrimp.
10 gallon: 2 betta's and a snail
10 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, two Guppies and 6 Panda loaches and shrimp.
5 gallon: Red Cherry Shrimp and snails
5 gallon tank: WIP tank
37 gallon: 2 F8 Puffers 7 bumblebee gobies.
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Here's an idea: You do off to college, and just, like..let ME take care of your entire fishroom/grarage and all your tanks for you. ;)

XD
(Lol, I have many found memories of bettas and college...I hope you have a greta time!^^)

@Tree CAMPING IS SO MUCK FUN! I hope you had a great time! :D

And Krill ARE smelly...even Freeze-dried! But I think their smell is what makes them attractive to puffs. X'D
(Poofy BEGS for them...I'm glad Copter like them too!)


Fahaka puffers are adorable murderers much like GSPs, but I've heard that red eyes and Avacado puffers are a BIT less aggressive.
Amazon puffers tend to need more hands-on dental work as well. Just things to keep in mind!^^

Copter looks healthier everytime you post pictures of him, Tree! He's already come SO FAR! OvQ
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the camping trip was amazing. minus the rain on Saturday, Friday and Sunday was nice weather.

I wonder if Bien would eat something like Krill. But I will have to chop one up. BLAH. GAGS. lol

yeah agreed, I have read a lot about all the fresh water puffers. I think Fahaka's get pretty large too.

RIGHT?! He's been so happy in his own tank and he loves it! Though I'm not sure if the water changes are stressing him out or not. I just added more water with marine salt that was mixing all week and he was glass surfing soon after. He hardly glass surf until I do a water change to slowly add the salinity. I'm doing everything correct. x_x

here is a before and after of his progress:

Before:

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15 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, 5 harlequin rasboras, 5 neon green Rasboras, Clown pleco, Shrimp.
10 gallon: 2 betta's and a snail
10 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, two Guppies and 6 Panda loaches and shrimp.
5 gallon: Red Cherry Shrimp and snails
5 gallon tank: WIP tank
37 gallon: 2 F8 Puffers 7 bumblebee gobies.
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