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The Puff Base: Pufferfish Thread!



Poofy the Puff welcomes you to our humble thread!
This thread is for information on Puffs, and discussion of Puff care, as well as simply showing off and talking about our Puff's in their homes!

Pufferfish can live in freshwater, brackish water, and salt. Puffs are cute, but can be bloodthirsty! They are carnivorous, and are all aggressive (just varying levels of aggression. Some puffs can be kept in groups like a sorority, other puffs need to be alone, like male bettas, and others CAN be community fish if one takes great care with selecting tank mates.)
They eat shelled food, like clams, snails, shrimp, and crab. They have strong plates that work like toothers and are good for the crunching!
Those toothers never stop growing, however, and feeding food with shells is necessary to keep them trimmed. Some puffs like the "Amazon Puffer" have notoriously fast growing teeth, and MAY need fishy dentristy, and others, such as "Pea/Dwarf Puffers" have toothers that grow very slowly, so it's not as much of a concern!

(For baby puffs, or tiny puffs, I personally suggest bladder snails! They're easy to start a culture with, reproduce quickly, and are small enough for the tiniest of puffs to crunch!)


Puffs get very grey when they are sad, sick or hurt.So a bright puff is a happy puff! On some types of puff, (Green spotted puffer, spotted congo puffer, and figure 8 puffer) A snow white tummy is evidence of a healthy, happy puff!

(A sad, hungry puff with an empty tum :( )

(A happy, well fed puff with a full tum! :) )

Most puffs you see in stores are only babies! I personally suggest treating them as you would fry to aid them in their growth, however, a puffer keeper who's decently known (Puffer Punk) suggests feeding a small amount 1 time a day with 1 fast day a week. Another, (Cory of Aquarium Co-op) Suggests keeping your puff well fed! Especially if your puff in in a community tank...a fat, well fed puff is a lazy puff, and less likely to nom upon the "harder" to catch fishies in your tank!

(Poofy 40 days ago!)

(Poofy now! Mushroom decoration in background for a size comparison.)

That's it! That's the puff basics!
Now it's feeding time!


(Poofy's lookin' for snails to nom)

Whoops! That's a pebble!

Speaking of which, Poofy needs to be moved to a tank with a SANDY bottom! That will prevent a puff from hurting his toothers trying to nom on a snail-looking rock, and makes it easier for them to "hunt" for snails like they would in the wild!

NOW you're done learning the basics, and Poofy has been fed! \^0^/
So you can go ahead with the thread! Ask questions! Talk about Puffs! Show pictures of your cute puffs! And overall; Let's have fun!
And learning!
Educational funtimes! :D
Afterall, people learn best when they're having fun.^0^
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I saw sick puffs at Walmart today;



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Please note the empty tummies with grey on them, as well as the more obvious signs or illness, like the white fuzzy stuff.

I got Poofy from this walmart, oblivious to the kind of care a puff entails. They sell them as "mildly aggressive" freshwater fish who "MAY nip fins".
They are not freshwater, and the other stuff are, like, the under exaggerations or the year.
It's a simmular problem as with bettas; People see pretty fish, and want to take them home, but arn't given the right information to give them proper care. Yes, I want to save these poor, suffering puffs who will go to clueless homes and lay havoc upon any poor fishies an unsuspecting owner puts them in with...but I also don't want to encourage more of this terrible treatment and misinformation about puffs. 'Tis an ongoing struggle, so while I want this thread to be Puff owners having fun telling about and showing off their puffs, I also want non-puff owners and new puff owners to be educated! I'm a new puff-mom, and have much to learn, but I want to help where I can, and maybe we can learn together!
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Great thread! and those poor puffers! D= Walmart needs to stop selling fish all together.

anyway my puffers and their tanks!

one is Bien, my little pea puffer in her own 5 gallon naturally planted tank:





and her tank:


And my new puffer named Copter. A Figure 8 puffer: he was in rough shape as well due to the LFS had the F8s with the GSPs. =(



he now looks much better with his fins healing and a large belly. <3




and his tank:


I will be taking more photos of Copter once his fin gets fully healed which should be by next week!

thanks for making this thread angeliza and hope more puffer owners pop up!



15 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, 5 harlequin rasboras, 5 neon green Rasboras, Clown pleco, Shrimp.
10 gallon: 2 betta's and a snail
10 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, two Guppies and 6 Panda loaches and shrimp.
5 gallon: Red Cherry Shrimp and snails
5 gallon tank: WIP tank
37 gallon: 2 F8 Puffers 7 bumblebee gobies.
My journal: https://www.bettafish.com/144-journa...ournal-46.html
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@Tree
Oh my goosh Bien is a UNICORN! :O!!
Or rather...a uni-puff!^^

I agree that Walmart should stop selling fish...but at the same time, seeing fish at Walmart, and standing there with my little face pressed to the glass was how I came to love fish as a kid. My very first Betta, Rosemary, was in a community tank in Walmart, and I found her that way. Then again, the walmart I went to as a child not only had a small saltwater section, but was actually better taken care of.

Walmart should either stop selling fish, or start properly educating their workers and their customers on how to care for them.

Walmart aside though: Copter is SO CUTE!
GSPs like Poofy are even more aggressive then Figure 8s and grow to be bigger so I can very much imagine the terribleness that poor boy has had to go through.
(I love Poofy...but he loves murder. It's second only to his love of BUBBLES.) X'D
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HAHA yeah, I'm not sure why that lump is there. She had it when she was very young. But it's not bothering her one bit. lol
agreed, maybe with having people care better for the fish there and teach people about them would help a lot. I'm glad you got Poof outta there.

and thanks! =) I'm seeing a strong bond with Copter and I. Bien is more skiddish with her being so small but Copter is so curious about everything I do.



15 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, 5 harlequin rasboras, 5 neon green Rasboras, Clown pleco, Shrimp.
10 gallon: 2 betta's and a snail
10 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, two Guppies and 6 Panda loaches and shrimp.
5 gallon: Red Cherry Shrimp and snails
5 gallon tank: WIP tank
37 gallon: 2 F8 Puffers 7 bumblebee gobies.
My journal: https://www.bettafish.com/144-journa...ournal-46.html
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@Tree I've heard that Pea Puffers sometimes perfer to be in groups...? Like small schooling fish, they may be less skittish when they're not alone. I'm not sure though.

(My favorite Copter picture is that one where he's ALL white tum tum and big eyes. He's so stinking cuuute~<3)

Puffs have so much personality! Poofy and I have bonded, and he's always happy to see me...I have his tank across from my bed, as he seems to like being able to see me and watch what I do.

He also seems to be afraid of the dark.
Everytime I turned the lights off and turned his tank light off, he used to start splashing around, and I could hear him jumping and hitting the ceiling. I put in a nightlight for him, and it stopped for awhile, but I can't sleep with bright lights in the room, so I put glowing plants and caves in his tank!
Problem solved!
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I've read that pea puffers are kinda like female bettas housed together. You need thick plant cover so they have their own territory. Bien was the only one in the tank at the store and I was afraid she would attack another puffer if I put about one in the tank with her. She used to be very curious when she was down stairs in my room but when I moved her up stairs in the living room she got more skiddish. I might end up moving her downstairs again and having my betta upstairs for all too see. It could be the vibration when we walk around upstairs too cause it's every time we move around but when I am feeding her or about to get it ready, she gets all excited and curious.

The one where he is looking at the camera? hehe my fave too. I added the salinity to his tank earlier this week and so far so good! I made a new batch of marine water for next week to add in there to higher the salinity. I was worried for a bit when I added the water into the tank cause he was glass surfing like he was when I first got him. I now know when he is uncomfortable he glass surfs but when he is content he chills and watches me and hunts for food.

awww so cute! poor Poof scared of the dark. <3 and what a smart idea with glowing plants! and yeah reasons why I think Bien is now skiddish. she used to be in my room all the time =( yup time to move her back into my room or at least down stairs with less activity.



15 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, 5 harlequin rasboras, 5 neon green Rasboras, Clown pleco, Shrimp.
10 gallon: 2 betta's and a snail
10 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, two Guppies and 6 Panda loaches and shrimp.
5 gallon: Red Cherry Shrimp and snails
5 gallon tank: WIP tank
37 gallon: 2 F8 Puffers 7 bumblebee gobies.
My journal: https://www.bettafish.com/144-journa...ournal-46.html
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@Tree Poofy doesn't like the dark, the the Breicorn doesn't like vibrations or too much people-traffic. Each puff certainly has it's own personality and fears, lol!^^

And Thanks! I'm planning to move him into a larger tank soon, and he's gonna trade tanks with a betta, get a sand substrate, all his plants and decor from his old tank, and maybe some new glowey stuff that keeps with his mushroom-theme!^^

Also, Poofy update:

He try to nom food through the tank wall.
It no work.
He is now confuzzled;

He can see the food, good for nomming...so why can he no nom it?

After watching his confusion for a few more minutes, I eventually gave him a tiny peice, (despite the fact that he's already had his dinner...CURSE his cute faaaaace!)
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so true. I was looking up if I could keep one more pea puffer in the five gallon she's in, but I hear pros and cons of it. being two small and being that she is older she might attack the smaller one. =/ might just stick with just her in the 5 gallon.

Hahaha! d'aww! that face <3

So where do you get your food for him? Right now I only have pond snails, cherry shrimp, and blood worms. I want to get some more variety of foods for Copter and Bien. (that is IF she eats it! she is a picky eater)



15 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, 5 harlequin rasboras, 5 neon green Rasboras, Clown pleco, Shrimp.
10 gallon: 2 betta's and a snail
10 gallon: 1 Pea puffer, two Guppies and 6 Panda loaches and shrimp.
5 gallon: Red Cherry Shrimp and snails
5 gallon tank: WIP tank
37 gallon: 2 F8 Puffers 7 bumblebee gobies.
My journal: https://www.bettafish.com/144-journa...ournal-46.html
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@Tree Pondsnails are good for their teeth, but both they and bloodworms lack in protein and nutrition...So I bought a very high-protein food as the base of Poofy's diet: Omega One Freeze dried krill!
Sadly, there are only 2 petstores in my area... (+Walmart), so I have to order a LOT of my stuff online. X'D

Krill if high in protien, however, and if freezedried or frozen, the still have shells on, so the have a bit of crunch. They're too big for Poofy, though, so I break them into little pieces and feed him about 2 at a time. For the Breicorn, you may have to smash it up some.

Blackworms are really good and high in protien too, but I can't seem to find ANY started colonies for them anywhere. X'D

(When we eat seafood sometimes i slip him some too). :p
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