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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 10-25-2019, 08:28 AM Thread Starter
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2 Bolivian Rams in 15 Galon Aquarium?

I am planning on purchasing Fluval Flex 15 Galons Aquarium Kit. I was surching true freshwater fishes and I red about Bolivian Rams. I am wondering if I could keep 2 of them (or maybe electric blue Rams) in 15 galon planted tank with addition of 2 maybe 3 Panda Corry. Fluval Flex is designed for planted aquariums so I have hope it might work?

It has been my dream for longer time to have small community aquarium. And my bettas have to live separately. Since it is expensive hobby I am sicking for advice. I don't want to start something what doesn't have a sense. I saw Rams in Petco the other day, they are really pretty and not to big Cichlids.

Does anybody have suggestions? Is it enought space por 2 of them in 15 galons aquarium? I am planing on having possibly 2 females or 2 males. If someone keeps them maybe I can get advice which ones are less aggressive females or males?
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16 L x 15 W x 15 H"

The best way to determine if fish will "fit" an aquarium is to throw out gallons and learn their tank dimension requirements. This is the way species profiles define appropriate tank size.

Bolivian Rams need a tank 35" x 17". The Fluval Flex is 16" L x 15" W x 15" H. Not enough length for these fish.

An Electric Blue pair need a tank 24" x 12". So not enough length for them, either.

Unless you are determined to get the Fluval Flex, you can start from scratch for far less. And if you aren't in a hurry, PetCo has its $1 per gallon sale in January.
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I'm with Russell on this and I would suggest either a 20 L or a 29 gallon tank for them. When I had Rams I had them in a 55 gal. and all was peaceful.
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Thank you both for important informations.
I think 20 galon long looks promising. It just takes lots of space and here I have a problem. Not sure if my husband will agree 🤔. It took me a while to convince him to Fluval Flex 15 galon. And I don't want other fishes then Rams. I really love how they look.
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If you end up only being able to do the 15g I can suggest sparkling gourami (aka pygmy gourami). I know you don't want to consider other fish, but sparkling gouramis can be just as colorful as rams in the right environment and are pretty easy to care for with attitudes similar to bettas and equally like heavily planted tanks. Just a thought if you can only go with that size, but I understand having your heart set on rams. They are beautiful and interesting fish, and hopefully you'll be able to get the set-up you want.
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If you end up only being able to do the 15g I can suggest sparkling gourami (aka pygmy gourami). I know you don't want to consider other fish, but sparkling gouramis can be just as colorful as rams in the right environment and are pretty easy to care for with attitudes similar to bettas and equally like heavily planted tanks. Just a thought if you can only go with that size, but I understand having your heart set on rams. They are beautiful and
interesting fish, and hopefully you'll be able to get the set-up you want.
Thank you. They are pretty, but like u said my heart is set on Rams. So I will try to work something for bigger tank.
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I'm with Russell on this and I would suggest either a 20 L or a 29 gallon tank for them. When I had Rams I had them in a 55 gal. and all was peaceful.
Old Dog if I manage to convince my husband for 29 gallon tank, how many bolivian Rams could I keep in it? I am planing to have 3 panda cory and few Rams. Aquarium with 29 galons capacity makes more sense, it's the same lenght like 20 galon long but more space for fish.
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It is not the gallons you want, but the length. These fish get very territorial; especially during breeding. This is why smaller tank footprints won't work. A pair of either type of Ram is probably all you can handle with your restrictions. As OD59 suggested, a good compromise would be a 20 gallon long or a 29.

These, IME, are not easy fish to keep. They definitely are not as easy to keep as Betta...which are a hardy fish. I would not consider Rams to be beginner fish. But that's just my opinion.

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Old Dog if I manage to convince my husband for 29 gallon tank, how many bolivian Rams could I keep in it? I am planing to have 3 panda cory and few Rams. Aquarium with 29 galons capacity makes more sense, it's the same lenght like 20 galon long but more space for fish.

The Panda Cories need a shoal to feel safe and secure. A proper shoal is at minimum 6 fish, so you'll be needing at least 3 more if you want to keep them properly.

What the 29 gal will give you is more room for a few more fish. You could have your Rams as your "centerpiece" and add 1 or 2 more types of fish to compliment them.

I have a 20 gal long planted aquarium, and have my betta as the centerpiece in it, then I have 8 bronze cories that roam the bottom and 8 harlequin raspbora that tend to stick to the middle of the tank. My betta patrols wherever he likes and I spot him at all levels of the tank.

Maybe get some Honey Gourami, they are pretty but would not outshine the Rams, and they are peaceful, you'd need at least 4 to 6 of them. https://www.fishkeepingworld.com/honey-gourami/
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These, IME, are not easy fish to keep. They definitely are not as easy to keep as Betta...which are a hardy fish. I would not consider Rams to be beginner fish. But that's just my opinion.
I understand your concern. But I already chose them long time ago and my husband agreed for 29 galon tank. It will be my Christmas/Anniversary gift. Next month I will buy a stand and in December tank and all accessories. In January I will buy a pair of Rams. 2 are enough for me. I will be more then happy.
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