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post #41 of 54 (permalink) Old 10-01-2016, 01:55 PM Thread Starter
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Being Saturday, this is my first full day sitting next to the fish for most of the day in a good while. Once or twice, I'd heard a water trickling noise, like the filter was spitting or something like that. Just saw the cause. TP's water level's a little low and he's jumping. Now, there's a heavy glass lid but he's not hitting it; just pushing himself up and out and lying on top of the water sprite, sideways; maybe even a little out of the water. I thought something was really wrong with him but when I lifted the lid, he just swam off. I guess he just likes lying up there? Anyone heard of anything like this before? It's a bit unusual to have a single floating plant taking up 100% of the water surface and easily supporting their weight, maybe. Just more TP doing weird stuff and scaring the crap outta me. Tested his water and it's all 0-0-0 so I know that's OK and I was gonna do a change tomorrow anyway. I think I'll top it well up; he could probably hurt himself with that nonsense.
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Some of my fish beach themselves on floating plants, too.
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post #43 of 54 (permalink) Old 10-09-2016, 02:40 PM Thread Starter
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Couple of recent snaps; guys have just been hanging out, eating. Been really easy going.
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I was in Copenhagen for a few days (excellent public transport and aquarium, otherwise very similar to any other big European city and very pleasant). Came home and found I had amassed a quite incredible hair algae collection on the roots of Sagat's water sprite. I actually kinda like it :)

Mentioned a few times that TP's fins are getting ripped up. Don't think it's actually gotten any worse in a good few weeks now but it's a little disconcerting. He doesn't seem bothered by it at all and I can only presume it's his own nature; he burrows, he jumps, he squeezes behind and through things. I guess it's not doing him any real harm and it certainly doesn't affect his swimming at all. I can't imagine he'd be happier in a more bare tank and he'd just bust himself up on the heater and filter anyway, I'm sure. I can live with it, just hope he's alright. He seems to be.
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So, that hair algae I liked? Yeah, probably should have binned it. All my plants started melting shortly after that. It's gone now but I've lost most of my giant Vallis that was doing so well (had a few runners going). I've trimmed off all the dead stuff but now 's tiny; few little sproutlings. For their part, they aren't getting any worse and the roots look healthy but I haven't noticed any growth at all, either. The algae's starting to come back, too. Couple of potential causes here; I have carbon in my filter, it was at end of life; sudden influx of nutrients for algae, it out-competes the plants. Other issue is my light cycle; 7am-9am, 5pm-9pm. The break in between is too long; the algae can respirate, the plant's can't. So, now it's 2pm-5pm / 6pm-9pm and I've gotten some new carbon and I'll remember that it doesn't last forever from now on.

On the plus side, Lil mentioned in another thread about suction-cupping anubias to a wall, and since my tank had gotten kinda bare from the plant loss, I did this (Sagat's been swimming through it since it wen in, he seems to like it);
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I've seen that at pet stores, too! I really like it.
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Got some more anubias. It's hardy but that first one I put in had started to melt a little bit. Got some API anti-algae at the LFS, carbon's out of the tank, so we'll see how it goes. New light cycle doesn't seem to be having too much of an effect but it's good practice, so it's staying. I brought a sample of both tanks to test for phosphates, since only one was having an issue. Sure enough, the problem tank's test goes blue; about 1.0ppm. OK... try the other one. Nothing. For a while. Then slowly, same shade of blue, then darker and darker. Over 3.0ppm. LFS guy explained that it was lower in the problem tank because the algae is using it and growing, whereas the good tank has the giant water sprite established and it's out-competing the algae. So, I bought a test and tested my tap water. See below; she's bad. I guess we'll see how this API product goes. LFS guy doesn't like Seachem for some reason, but they and others make filter media that absorbs phosphates too but he said not to use it yet because if it's combined with the API and it drains all the phosphates, it's bad for the plants.

The good news is that none of this bothers the fish at all; they're doing good. The bad news is, if I don't fix this, my plants are going to keep dying. I'm rooting for API on this one right now.
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Badly losing the hair algae fight. The java moss that's been engulfed there will have to go in the bin, joining many other plants before it (including the first of that new anubias, the one that had started melting; rhizome completely rotted).

One month on and the anti-algae additives haven't even slowed it down. Going to start using RO water. Going to pick up 5L tomorrow and do a 10L (50%) water change, so 75% tap, 25% RO. Same next week and well, I suppose every week. I'll periodically test my tap water and see if it gets any better in the meantime, and switch back to tap when I can. Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess. Real pain to have to drive to the LFS every week to pick up 5L of water, but it's a lot better than doing the same to buy new plants.
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I never had luck with anti-algae additives, either. The one I bought said you still had to rub the algae off of everything and that the additive just killed it. I hope you win your battle!
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Well, no new plant problems, little bits of algae here and there but nothing too extreme. Personally, I think the tank's the best looking it's ever been right now. Running something like 1/3 RO currently. pH has dropped down to about 6.7 so I'm keeping an eye on that but otherwise, my anubias has little sprouts for the first time, the new additions are all surviving well and the vallis is really starting to make a comeback. I've starting dosing Easy-Carbo again as well and I haven't seen any of the hair algae really returning. All in all, the plan seems to be working and the tides are turning!
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