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post #11 of 35 (permalink) Old 12-04-2017, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
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- Day 5 -

I feel so bad for poor Samson. He does not handle stress well. I ended up having to return his brand new tank because the filtration on it randomly stopped working... :sigh:

Personally, I dislike Topfin products simply because you can't purchase replacement parts. So, I spent my entire afternoon switching his tank yet again. I hated having to do so and I tried to make it as quick and painless as possible. Unfortunately, he is acting stressed again. He is an amazing hider! Several times today I panicked when I couldn't find him thinking he had jumped (even though he has a hood) or got sucked into the filter. Both were highly unprobable and each time I found him nestled comfortable behind a leaf or something. I'm still waiting for my IAL to come in but as soon as they do, both boys will be getting one.

- Day 2 -

Jaime also got a tank upgrade. I never intended for him to stay in Samson's old tank forever. It just so happened that petco was still having an amazing sale. I bought them both two fluvals, I forget the name of the kit...

He reacted very well to the move. Didn't miss a beat. I've also noticed parts of his personality coming through. He is very aggressive, flaring at me anytime I approach his tank but he is also very interactive. If I put my finger in the water, he will swim right up and brush against my fingers.

Overall, I'm happy with the boys' progress. I'm hoping that once Sammy gets resettled in he'll go back to swimming around. I'm not anticipating him being overly eager to eat again, though. I know Jaime will be ready the moment he sees me opening their food.

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Today was a hectic day! Not so much on the fish front, but more on the kid front. My youngest is having some kind of adverse reaction to something so I spent the majority of my day tending to her. Meanwhile, my eldest took it upon herself to dump a whole bottle of food into Sam's tank. That resulted in an emergency clean up as well as a skipped feeding to hopefully prevent any issues. I was stunned. I gave her a very firm talking to and moved the fish food way out of her reach. Somehow, Jaime missed out on the feast and has been quite grumpy about that.

Both boys are doing well. Sammy tolerated the Stress of his tank being cleaned phenomenally. Despite gorging himself earlier in the day, he still sat at the top of his tank in hopes that I had forgotten and would feed him again. No luck there buddy. He is still the master at hiding and always gives me minor heart attacks whenever I can't find him.

Thanks so some of you all here on the forum, I have come to the conclusion that Jaime's fins are permanently curled. I'm not sure why this has happened, but I love him anyway. The more I study him the more I wonder what he is going to look like in time. He has one ventrical that is completely iridescent but has a blue tint to it. I can also see hints of some blue on his chin. I'm not sure what he is going to be. He certainly is flare happy, though.

I am having an issue of Sammy not keeping his food down. I've noticed that shortly after feeding him, he regurgitates it back up. I'm thinking I'm going to have to switch him to a smaller pellet. He is much more petite than Jaime. I just don't think he can handle the size of the NLS as well as he used to. I have some hikari pellets I'm thinking about trying him on...

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I've read different things cause fin curling. I have a double tail with a dorsal fin that curls a little at the top. I also recently got a crowntail betta and some of the ends of his fins are starting to curl to curly qs. I've heard that pH, genetics, water conditions, and tail type have roles in fin curling. I'm not sure though. My tank pH is 8.1. I'm not sure if my crowntail had curling fins when I got him, I noticed a few days after I got thim. When I noticed him having curling fins, I noticed that my double tails fin also had a curl. I think that one is new since I don't remember him having a curl and it doesn't show in any pictures I have. From what I gather, fin curling doesn't mean they are ill and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it.

As for the food, you can always frind up the pellets into smaller pieces. I feed my bettas Omega One Betta Buffet. I want to say they are a little bigger than Hikari Bio Gold and they don't look at big as NLS.
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I've read different things cause fin curling. I have a double tail with a dorsal fin that curls a little at the top. I also recently got a crowntail betta and some of the ends of his fins are starting to curl to curly qs. I've heard that pH, genetics, water conditions, and tail type have roles in fin curling. I'm not sure though. My tank pH is 8.1. I'm not sure if my crowntail had curling fins when I got him, I noticed a few days after I got thim. When I noticed him having curling fins, I noticed that my double tails fin also had a curl. I think that one is new since I don't remember him having a curl and it doesn't show in any pictures I have. From what I gather, fin curling doesn't mean they are ill and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it.

As for the food, you can always frind up the pellets into smaller pieces. I feed my bettas Omega One Betta Buffet. I want to say they are a little bigger than Hikari Bio Gold and they don't look at big as NLS.
Yeah, I noticed his fins had curled at the store. That's one of the reasons I decided to take him home with me. I think it probably has something to do with his poor water quality as he is a veiltail. I don't expect his caudal to go back to the way it was before. I think this so just how he is now. And that's perfectly ok.

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Both boys are doing so amazingly well! Today was water change day, so that took a little while but both handled everything exceptionally well. Even Sammy remained his usual happy self. I was worried that he would get stressed out and go back to hiding, but nope. All day he has been interactive and swimming laps around his tank. I'm so happy to see him perking up again. He still hasn't given me a flare like he used to, but I'm hoping that is right around the corner. I also spent some time today estimating his age. I guess that he will be a year old in January. Jaime isnt far behind, to my assumption that he is close to eight months old.

I finally got Sammy eating tonight! I tried the Hikari Betta gold pellets (I had a free sample that I got from somewhere) and he still spent much of his meal time spitting them out. I quickly realized that it isn't because he can't chew it (those pellets are drastically smaller than the NLS He was getting) it's because he's a picky little bugger. Tonight, I offered him the first food I'd ever purchased for him, Ocean Nutrition Betta Formula. Of course he gobbled it up like a happy little clam. :sigh: He would like the one that isn't the greatest nutritionally.

In hopes of solving my feeding woes with Sammy, I ordered the New Life Spectrum Betta pellets. I'm hoping he will like those, plus it's better for him. I know Jaime will, more than likely, not have a single issue. He is a piggy!

Jaime continues to do well. He is very active and patrols his tank multiple times throughout the day. He always flares at me when I approach (I'm sure he is hoping that I will find him impressive enough to feed him more food). Today while I was cleaning his tank he came up and brushed against my fingers, multiple times! I'm sure that's his way of saying thank you.

My Indian Almond Leaves are supposed to arrive tomorrow. I am super excited! I'm hoping the yummy tannins will help speed along Sammy's recovery.

Ok, picture time! The top picture is of Jaime at the start of his recovery and the bottom is the one I took today. There's no improvement yet, but I plan on always presenting his progress like this in hopes that it will showcase his improvement as we go along. One week down! C'mon Sammy boy, you can do this!

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Actually I already see improvement with Sammy. His color is a lot better, and his caudal fin looks like it's already healing some.
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Such a sweet boy. I hope that Samson heals up. It's awesome what you're doing with him and Jaime.
Me and Shy Guy (my betta boy) are rooting for you guys. :)
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So, before I jump into this entry, I wanted to make a quick admission to you all. I haven't been completely honest and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit...we (my husband and I) decided to change the fishs' names. A couple of nights ago we both came to the agreement that the names I had chosen didn't quite reflect the boys' personalities. And, if I'm going to be super honest, Samson went unnamed for a ridiculously long time. Not because I didn't love him but because I just couldn't come up with a name that I felt suited him. So, from now on

Jaime = Samson

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Sandor = Jaime.

I hope you all catch those references and maybe I'll elaborate on my husband's flawless logic in another post. But, anyway, onto the updates.

I'm going to start with Jaime (Samson) since Sandor's update will probably be a long one. Jaime is doing so much better! I got my Indian Almond Leaves in the mail yesterday and already his colors appear more vibrant and he seems so much more energetic! He is still eating the Ocean Nutrition Pellets but I'm hoping to try him on New Life Spectrum Betta pellets tonight. I also upgraded his heater, more on the main reason why in Sandor's update, so he is sitting at a consistent 80* now. I'm hoping this will continue to promote his healing process. Overall, he is doing amazing. Still no flaring but he seems so much more at ease now.

Sandor...where do I even begin? So, I was doing good. Ecstatic at the arrival of my IAL. I even dropped a few in his tank because, why Not? Then, as I'm sitting there observing them enjoying the newest additions to their tank I notice tell-tale signs of Ich sprinkled all over Sandor's body. Instant panic. That night I did some research and developed a game plan. It's because of this newest development that I invested in better heaters. With the cooler weather here those 15w heaters weren't doing jack. Now I am cleaning his tank daily in scalding hot water and cleaning everything that comes in contact with him. It's a chore. I disposed of his gravel so now his tank is bare bottom and I removed his filter media during the course of his treatment. So far so good. Poor buddy! He is still eating so I am confident he will recover. I should have known something like this was going to happen. Especially given his atrocious conditions...

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So which one's which?? I'm so confused lol.
Is "Jaime" the halfmoon that you had originally?
Is "Sandor" the orange veiltail from Walmart?

I'm glad that Jaime is doing better! And I'm sorry that Sandor has ich! Hope he heals soon!!

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So which one's which?? I'm so confused lol.
Is "Jaime" the halfmoon that you had originally?
Is "Sandor" the orange veiltail from Walmart?

I'm glad that Jaime is doing better! And I'm sorry that Sandor has ich! Hope he heals soon!!

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Sorry, I know it's confusing. Jaime is the original rose tail.

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