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post #11 of 94 (permalink) Old 02-24-2018, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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Thinking, thinking, thinking.... I could get the metal storage shelves, and a 10 gal tank. Leave Pinkerton in the 5 gal, and set the 10 gal up for the insane fish posse. I know it's not ideal, and the last thing I want is 4 tanks, but the Danios shouldn't have to pay because I messed up. If I give them away I'm pretty sure they'd be kept in a tank no bigger then a 5 gal, most likely a 2.5, and I can't get back to PetSmart to return them.

I just hate having to try and move the 5 gal.
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post #12 of 94 (permalink) Old 02-24-2018, 04:38 PM
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@Rainbo ....

Try catching 3... I think it was 335 baby Blue Zebra Danios. Yep, that's right. Somewhere over the 300 mark. Had to catch all of them once every two weeks to do W/Cs, count them, and cull if needed. I still have 150 or so in tubs in the garage. They're all super tiny, but I don't have the heart to cull 150 of them. I have no idea what I'm going to do with them lol.

If you could, I would get a 36" metal shelf (They sell heavy duty ones, 5 tier, for like $40) and set up a 20G long and a couple of 5.5s. You could divide the 20 into a 15G and 5G section, and then have the other two Betta in the 5.5 while still giving both the Danios and Bettas adequate space.

(Or, you could get a 40GB which fits perfectly on 36" shelving and then do a massive community... *wink*)

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Oh my, I couldn't imagine trying to catch that many! It must start out easy then quickly move into a headache.

I'll admit to having thoughts on flushing the little things if I caught them, but I'd never do that it's not there fault that I brought them home and I don't have the heart to kill them. Still trying to convince myself to go catch the last two but I still feel horrid and am dreading it. Never again though! I'm creative making mistakes but rarely make the same one twice.

I'm looking for 3 tier shelves, 5 tier is going to be too tall for my tiny living room. Trying to find ones that are 24" or longer and do not have adjustable shelves is a pain though. I'd love the adjustable shelves if I weren't so terrified of the plastic pieces that hold the shelves failing. It's one thing when 100 lbs of cans fall, and quite another when 100lbs of water, gravel, and glass falls.
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If you could, I would get a 36" metal shelf (They sell heavy duty ones, 5 tier, for like $40) and set up a 20G long and a couple of 5.5s. You could divide the 20 into a 15G and 5G section, and then have the other two Betta in the 5.5 while still giving both the Danios and Bettas adequate space.

I've toyed with getting a 20G but don't have the money for all the equipment I'd be needing to buy right away. The filters I have are rated up to 10 gal and the spare heater is 25 watt. The plan is to get a 10gal aquarium for $14, a 50 watt heater, and a stand, then upgrade stuff as I get the money.

Luckily I can leave Mercury and Monet, in the tanks that they are in now and shouldn't have to move them. If I put them in the 5 gal they'd have less space since their current tanks are wide rather then tall.
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Well all the posse are in the 2.5 gallon, hopefully I'll be able to get to WalMart and get a 10 gal and something to put it on for them in the next few days, just have to feel better then round up a ride there. I think Pinkerton is glad to have his tank to himself again, those danio are certainly active little fish.

Here's a picture of the little guys in their temporary tank.
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Well just as soon as the stand for the tanks get here I'll be setting up the Zebra Danio's new 10 gallon tank.

I went with the Aqua Culture 55 gal stand, more expensive but I'm paranoid about a stand failure and 15 gal of water, substrate, and fish all over my floor. Also the metal storage shelf stands I found were nearly $50 and I'd still need to buy plywood to put on them, so I'd be up near what I paid for the Aqua Culture stand. I've also got a Fluval heater coming around the same time as the stand, maybe a day later, and some live anacharis, and anubia coin coming in around a week. I still need to get a tank cover but Drs Foster and Smith were out of the one I want and there was no way I was paying $18 more on Amazon for the same cover. The zebra danio were a rather expensive mistake.......

Pinkerton seems to be happier now that the posse is out of his tank and he ought to be even happier because most of the anacharis is for him.

Mercury remains his same sweet, cautious, self. He likes to watch me but darts away if I try to play with hm like I play with Pinkerton.

Monet, poor boy, I do not know what's wrong with him, he remains lethargic, barely eats, and now seems to be losing his color, I don't know what to do to help him. I've tested his water and while the cycle in that tank seems to have crashed (I didn't realize I had turned the filter down so much it was barely running), the ammonia and nitrite were at 0. I've treated him for parasites, but that's the only thing I've treated him for. I wish I knew what to do for my poor boy.

The Insane Fish Posse (Zebra Danio) seem to be doing alright in the 2.5 gal, 5 like to swim together while the 6h seems to have staked out the bottom back part of the tank as his and hangs out back there. They are eating well and have no signs of disease despite the stress the poor things were put through.
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Last ditch effort to do something to help poor Monet I'm going to switch out the gravel. I was reading reviews on the brand of gravel I got, but a different color then the one I had, and it seems that the color will flake off and leach into the water, some people reported that there fish were acting sick due to it. I just have to wait for the new gravel to arrive, probably 2 days from now. I may move poor Monet to a hospital tank in the mean time just to see if the poor boy perks up.
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Well on Tuesday afternoon I took Monet out of his 2.5 gal tank and put him in a hospital tank along with one of his silk plants, his live Anubia Coin, and his heater. By that afternoon he was more interested in food then he had been for quite awhile. The next morning he was doing a bit better and he ate well, honestly it's the best I had seen him doing for probably a month. Later that morning he scared the heck out of me by being on the bottom of his tank bent double like the letter n. What the.... I think the might have been looking for dropped food, or preparing to attack his tail which he did a short time later.

In the meantime his new gravel arrived. I stripped his tank, threw out all the old gravel, cleaned the tank with vinegar and rinsed it well. Rinsed everything in it in hot water, cleaned the filter with vinegar, and rinsed the filter sponges in clean, treated, water. Then put the whole thing back together minus one of the silk plants. I let the filter run for an hour, put the heater back in and let it calibrate for an hour, then let the whole thing run for another hour before putting Monet back in.

Today Monet is more active then I've seen him in months, he's swimming around checking everything out, laying in his plant, inspecting the gravel, he actually went after his food this morning.

It's making sense though. He'd seem to be doing a little better after a water change despite the levels always being good. I was taking the toxic water out, replacing it with fresh water, only to have the toxins build back up within a day or two. Those water changes likely saved his life. It's also probably why the PraziPro seemed to work at first, I followed the directions and did a large 75% water change before using it. Now I just wonder if whatever chemical in the gravel was causing the problem did lasting damage

Oh he's definitely tail biting and I'm not sure if he's marbling or his blue color loss is from something else...

Here's some pictures. The first is his old tank set-up, second is new tank set-up, third is how he used to look, and forth how he looks today.
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*Mutter* Whelp, not a happy day today. I woke up this morning and noticed that the 10 gal with the 6 zebras was looking pretty quiet and bare. I took a closer look and noticed one zebra belly up, and one swimming. I started really looking and spotted another belly up, spotted finally spotted a 4th hiding in the back of the tank. found the 5th belly up in the anacharis, and the 6th finally put in an appearance. So I've got 2 frightened zebras, a third that looks to be barely hanging on, and no idea if it's the stress of the past couple weeks or something else that killed them. They were fine yesterday schooling to the side of the tank I was on to be fed, and acting fine. The only thing that changed was the plants I ordered arrived yesterday evening and I put the anubia and 2 pieces of anacharis in the tank the bulk of the anacharis is in the 5 gal with Pinkerton and Pinkerton is acting fine.

I don't want to get more Zebras until I know that the 3 remaining are healthy, but I know they need 6 or more to help reduce stress and feel secure so I really don't know what to do. I was planning on getting a 20 gal long for them in a couple months....

On the betta front...

Mercury remains his sweet, shy, self. I swiped two of his ramshorn snails and stuck them in the 10 gal since the remaining zebra's seem to not be eating right. That and it gives the ramshorns a break from Mr. Mercury eating their antenna.

Pinkerton seems to have laid off biting his tail for the time being, I'm seeing new, clear, growth coming in. He seems to love that anacharis and is spending some time hanging out in it.

Monet is doing better, but not yet fully recovered, I'm not sure if he'll ever be but I just take what I can get. His color is so different then it's been in the past, it's like the blue faded and the vibrant red of his tail is now dull. I spotted a white spot on his back that I'm keeping an eye on I'm not sure if it's more color change or something else.
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Lost another zebra overnight, now there is one. I expect he'll likely pass away sometime before tomorrow morning as he's spent the day hiding. I just hate that I lost them like that, hard lesson to learn and it doubly sucks when living critters paid for my mistake.

I think I'll let the tank cycle with the 2 ramshorns I put in it for a month and maybe move one of the boys into it, probably Mercury and he's most likely to do good in it, but first I want to get a lot more top cover and plants in it since he's used to living in an anacharis jungle. If I don't move him I'll rescue another betta. Time will tell. I do have a Java Fern on driftwood coming for it, and have an anubia coin, and two sprigs of anacharis in it, along with a host of plastic and silk plants.

On a happier note Mr. Pinkerton seems to have finally stopped styling his tail! I spotted new, clear, growth on it tonight. It just took floating 2 anubia coins, around 3 pieces of soft, plastic, bushy, plants, and as of Monday a bunch of live floating anacharis to accomplish it.

Here's some pictures, the first is at most a week after I got him before he started on his tail styling project. second is the last one I took of what he managed to accomplish in his styling project, and the third is from tonight and you can see the new growth.
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