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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-31-2018, 02:26 PM Thread Starter
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Keeping bettas is so much fun, I want to share updates all the time! Currently I have Piras, my handsome dragon boy, a little betta girl who doesn't have a name yet, and 6 microrasbora kubotai. Piras is doing good, he remains his flashy and active self. I accidentally fell for the microrasbora at the fish store, so I cautiously added them to Piras' 10gal home. They're all getting along so far, but I don't think Piras loves the little guys zipping around. He's gotten more used to them over the past few days, but I don't think they'll be permanent roommates.

I got a 5gal fluval chi at the pet store (which is when I also picked up the little girl) and my plan is to plant it up and put the microrasbora in there. They would probably do fine in the 10gal, but Piras seems a bit stressed out by having to share, and I don't want him to feel too crowded by the little fish. In theory the microrasbora kubotai only get to be about 2cm, but some people report them getting larger. if they stay small the 5 gal is probably okay.

The little girl betta is super cute! I was worried when I bought her that she wouldn't make it, but after a day she's improved a lot! Now she zips around looking for food and has no problem with the current from the filter. The first day she mostly hid in the corner by the plant roots and behind the heater, but now she's out and about most of the time. She is starting to show a bit of blue and iridescence, so I think she'll be a pretty blue when she colors up more. I tried to take a few more pictures this morning, but she's so fast now they're mostly blurry.
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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-31-2018, 10:17 PM
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Do not put Kubotai in the 5 gallon. It's too small for them. I considered to get them for my 8.6 gallon and asked for opinions on this forum. RussellTheShihTzu and LittleBettaFish told me that they were very active and needed bigger tanks. They have owned them and recommended a 20 gallon tank. I ended up not getting them. You should keep them in the 10 gallon.
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That's good to know, perhaps I'll keep them in the 10 after all. I think I was probably too quick to decide it wouldn't work in the first place. They all seem to be coexisting pretty well. I think they just needed a few days to settle in. Piras doesn't really bug them and they don't really bug him. I added more plants today as well and so there is a good amount of cover.
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took some pictures. the new plants look pretty rough, my mail carrier decided to half ass the delivery yesterday and monday so most of the leaves had disintegrated. Hopefully the plants will recover since the roots still looked okay and there is a bit of life left in them.
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That's good to know, perhaps I'll keep them in the 10 after all. I think I was probably too quick to decide it wouldn't work in the first place. They all seem to be coexisting pretty well. I think they just needed a few days to settle in. Piras doesn't really bug them and they don't really bug him. I added more plants today as well and so there is a good amount of cover.
Good to hear that they are getting along better. I wish I could have kubotai in my tank...!
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Good news and slightly less good news this time around. The slightly less good news is that adding more plants to the tank made the mircrorasboras bolder and they zoomed around the tank, which made Piras even more stressed. He started biting his fins and hiding in his corner. It figures my fish would have social anxiety so I put the microrasboras in the five gallon for now, and they seem to be accepting their temporary accomodations. Piras is much more relaxed now and enjoying his space. He hasn't bitten his tail any more, so hopefully he'll be back to normal in a bit.

The good news is my sister has a 20 gallon long tank she was going to set up for her frogs, but never got around to it, and she's letting me use it for fish! I had to re-seal a corner, but it's in good shape otherwise. She also has some neat driftwood pieces that will make good hiding places for fish. I ordered a filter and another heater, which get here tomorrow, so hopefully I'll have the tank up and running by Sunday.

Baby betta is doing well, she's coloring up more and growing. She'll definitely be an iridescent blue of some sort. I got her a betta hammock and she likes chilling there. I'll probably move her to the 5 gallon once I get the 20L set up and the microrasboras in there. Part of me wants to try putting her in the 20L with the other fish, but I think I'll wait a while until I do another betta + community fish experiment.
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Piras is doing much better alone in his 10g, he's back to investigating, showing off, and making bubble nests in the corner. I did add a gold inca snail named Roo to help with keeping the tank clean. Piras doesn't mind the snail at all and Roo is happily scooting around the tank eating bits of old leaves and such. Piras hasn't bitten his tail since I moved the microrasboras, so it will probably heal up soon, and then I can go back to taking a million pictures :D

the little girl betta is doing well too, she's growing and giving me looks whenever I walk past her tank without feeding her. It's really funny because she sees me, swims up to the top of the tank, looks at the top of the water for a few seconds, then looks at me. Clearly I'm not doing my job even though I feed her plenty. I put some IAL leaves in her tank too, some of them sank to the bottom and this morning she popped out from underneath them. She's adorable, but I'm still not sure what to name her.

I got the 20L tank set up and started cycling it. I'm getting plants in the mail tomorrow to plant it with, so it;s kind of bare right now. I got a marineland penguin filter for it, but I'm already regretting it. The output isn't adjustable as far as I can tell, so I'll probably need to diy some sort of baffle. I tried using a filter sponge to slow down the water as it came out but it was unsuccessful. I'm also worried about the intake being too strong and sucking up one of the microrasboras when I do finally put them in there.

I also used coconut coir as the substrate underneath about an inch of sand for plant purposes. It was a lot cheaper than the planted tank substrates offered by various companies, and will probably be easier for plant roots to use. The first day the whole tank was really clear after I filled it, but by the second day I think some of the finer coconut particles seeped up into the water, because it is pretty dark now. I'm hoping a few water changes will clear the water up, plus once I have the plants in they should help keep everything in place. hopefully this works out and I don't have to drain the whole tank D':
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a quick update because this is too funny not to share. Piras' snail buddy has been making himself at home, climbing everywhere and having a good time. But Piras has Opinions about where he is allowed to climb. There's a driftwood log in one corner of the tank, and I just watched the snail climb partway up, and then get shoved off by Piras. Afterward Piras rested briefly on the log, fins flared out dramatically because This Is Piras' Log And Only He Can Rest Here.

Tomorrow I'll take some pictures of Piras' tank and the 20L that finally has plants in it (and fish!)
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Picture time!

First is Piras' tank, since I changed it around a little. I think he likes the cover on the left side, but the right side is still kind of bare. I have some spiral val that I'm hoping will grow in to cover the area more, but most of it melted so I'm not sure how it will go.

My little girl is getting all colorful finally :D It's a little hard to tell because of the bad lighting, but she's kind of purple. I also came up with a name for her finally: Mercury! She loves frozen bloodworms, and always gets disappointed when I feed her flakes or pellets after getting bloodworms.

I finally got all the plants in my 20L, and it's looking pretty good. I ended up getting a different filter and some purigen to help clear up the water after I planted everything. I added a little more sand around the plants to make sure the soil underneath isn't exposed, so hopefully that keeps the water clear. The 20L also has a new occupant, Mars the koi betta! She's a very spunky and really enjoys swimming in the filter output, even though I'm always afraid she'll tire herself out. when I first put her in I still had the penguin filter and it tumbled her around, and she kept swimming right next to the intake and getting stuck. I thought she would stress herself to death in the first day or two. after I got the new filter (the aquaclear) she's much better, but she is addicted to swimming in the output current now.

Another new addition is Jupiter! I got her from dual007 on ebay. I only planned to look at the listing, but she was so cute . . . I put her in the fluval chi after cleaning it a bit and rearranging it, and I think she likes it so far. The only problem is the light for the chi is integrated into the filter, and I think in the process of refilling the tank by pouring water on the filter I must have broken the light somehow, because now it doesn't turn off. I think there's probably water in there somewhere. I've never had a fish shipped, so I was worried the usps would lose her or drop her off a moving vehicle, but she arrived safely and warm. She's still settling in, but she swims up to the front to see me when I check on her and is eating well.
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Some sad news this time, Mars passed away. I was checking the filter and one of the ceramic rings fell out and hit her in the head while she was swimming under the filter. She was very spunky and I'll miss seeing her cute face coming up to investigate. At least she got to enjoy swimming in a big tank and investigate all the little hidey holes and plants, I wish she could have enjoyed her new home for ore than a week. I feel sad that my clumsiness with the filter is what killed her, but it was one of those weird accidents that I don't think anyone could have predicted. Swim in peace kid

Everyone else is doing good though. I got Mercury an anubias and a little hamster tube to swim through so she has more to do in her tank and she seems very pleased. Piras is still patrolling his tank in usual fabulous fashion and begging for more food. I did notice a strand of string algae on the end of one of his anubias' so I'll try to turn the lights off earlier than I usually do. I moved Jupiter out of the fluval chi and into a divided 10 gallon. The lights still wont turn off (or wont stay off) and I think it was stressing her out, her fins were all clamped this morning and she was just sitting in one place. I think I might just return it tbh because It's hard to do water changes without taking it apart. Jupiter is doing much better in the divided 10 gallon. she's swimming around and not clamping her fins as much. I also got a better heater for this tank so hopefully the temp will stay at 80 degrees. I think the heater I was using in the chi was not working properly and causing huge temp fluctuations which Jupiter also did not like. I never thought I would say this, but I can't wait until it's 90 degrees in my dang house again so I don't have to use a ridiculous amount of wattage to heat the tanks. I also wish my landlord had hired an electrician who knows how to use the appropriate gauge of wire so our heater would turn on reliably. So many problems could be solved if my house wasn't 54 degrees every morning . . .
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