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post #11 of 62 (permalink) Old 12-09-2018, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks, went on a search for it today but seems all shops near me are sold out. Will have a look online but I do like to hold what I buy

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post #12 of 62 (permalink) Old 12-13-2018, 09:13 AM Thread Starter
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13/12/2018 Update

So as I was looking for some Vallisneria Spiralis I wondered into and out of several Aquatic Shops and Pet Centres. I was in one in particular (they get regular bad press regarding Fish Health) I saw a “temporary housing” of roughly 15 female Betta in a small 5 gallon space. So I want to pull out some of the worst of these poor fish. I also saw a very poorly looking Crown Tail that was housed in a tiny Hexagonal thing (less than 1 US Gallon) So this got me thinking about what I can do to help out these fish.

Popped into an Aquatic Centre near me looking for some food for Kojin when I spotted this guy again, he was being kept in a tiny Hexagonal Tank (has been for at least a month), along with some Corydoras (didn't notice what type but same size as him 5cmish), snails and shrimp, one moss ball, lights, filter, heater.... the entire thing was roughly the size of a 15cm cube. Also tested his water as he was very very erratic (rushing in his bag, doing "crocodile rolls" and found that the water parameters were terrible (Ammonia at 4.4PPM). I added Tank Water (room temperature) to his bag, took out 50% and repeated until I tested the water at 0.4PPM so have added some stress coat and Capatta to my 8G, he is currently now sat floating in the tank within the bag. He is still very frantic within the bag but is calming down and I am looking forwards to releasing him in little over an hour.

So onto the name, Ouro this is clearly a short form of Ouroborus (the snake that eats his own tail) once I can take some decent photographs of Ouro I will show his initial state as best I can. Damage I noticed was to the following

• Dorsal Fin - Looks as though most is missing, if not then small Dorsal Fin with lots of tears/bites

• Ventral Fins - Both sides look very tattered like it's been caught in a filter.

• Anal Fin - Very Tatty, along length is tears and bites

• Caudal Fin - Again a right mess, the webbing is very uneven but also looks as though each "tendril" has been at least nibbled with a few look stripped of fins in total.


Other than that he is a very fine looking Tri Colour Crown Tail, a couple of pictures of him floating in his transfer bag.

Final shot shows state of his fins
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Oh wow, poor dude, he'll love all those plants though I'm sure! Once he perks up the damage will be more clear, though honestly I don't think he looks too bad off. From what I can tell he doesn't have any rot issues going on so looks like you got him at a good time :)

I want to rescue the really sad ones sometimes too but just don't have the space
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Oh wow, poor dude, he'll love all those plants though I'm sure! Once he perks up the damage will be more clear, though honestly I don't think he looks too bad off. From what I can tell he doesn't have any rot issues going on so looks like you got him at a good time :)

I want to rescue the really sad ones sometimes too but just don't have the space
Thanks, well he made it through his first night. Not a lot of movement from him, he kinda crawls around the bottom of the tank using his Ventral/Pectoral fins. However he has eaten this morning (sinking pre-soaked tablet) and he has also flared against a small mirror that I placed outside the tank (trying to get better pictures - failed but my is he feisty!)

His colour is darkening which is nice but this makes the damage stand out more.

I have reduced the flow in here as far as I can with my current filter, I will be gradually increasing the strength of the flow as he regains his strength, slowly but surely we'll get there.

Thank you, there were others there but this guy looked the worse, the tank and water he was in..... urgh
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glad he made it through the night.
Obviously a fighter!
Hopefully each day will see an improvement.

70litre tank: (Kham) mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, 1 amano, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
57litre cube tank: ember tetras, 2 amano, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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Thanks, managed to get him halfway to the top of the tank using the mirror and his feisty demeanour. I have turned up the air stone as much as possible (it's behind the slate mountain in the centre) so that the water is as aerated as possible for him and also drawn down the tank as far as possible but so the heater and filter still work with natural evaporation over night/weekend
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I'm currently cycling a 5g (UK gallons) cube on my desk - and I have been astonished at how quickly the water level drops from evaporation, so that is a very useful tip. Smallest tank I have ever played with.

I am going to use the filter spray bar as a handy water level gauge, and top right up before I go away for more than a day or two.
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I'm currently cycling a 5g (UK gallons) cube on my desk - and I have been astonished at how quickly the water level drops from evaporation, so that is a very useful tip. Smallest tank I have ever played with.

I am going to use the filter spray bar as a handy water level gauge, and top right up before I go away for more than a day or two.
That's a good idea, I left on the masking tape from where I marked out "The Golden Ratio" on my tank when planting/scaping on the blind side of the tank (Find it useful for trimming) the lowest tape is my panic mark for water levels, if i see space there I know i need to refill my 5g treatment bucket (I keep 5g treated all times minimum - worst case scenario I need a cheap heater and can keep a fish here)

I build in multiple contingency plans
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Do you keep the bucket open, or part covered?
At various times I have had a bucket with a tilted lid (cuts down on the gas exchange though) or thrown a cloth over the open bucket, to keep out dust.
Don't think I have ever treated the water before adding it to the tank though - that is a great idea.

My latest technique with the 16g tank is to have one of the 5litre bottled water bottles ready, at room temperature.
The declared nitrate content is supposedly 11mg/l which is significantly less than our our tap water!

How does your work feel about your tank on the desk?
I think it is a great idea, but my employer would never allow it because we are all supposed to be 'mobile' and don't have designated desks.
I am so 'mobile' that I work from home nearly full time, so I can do whatever I like with my home desk.
Haha!
But in the office, all I get is a plain desk to plug my laptop in, and an extension screen and hub thingy.

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I keep the bucket covered, got it from a cheap hardware store with lid for about £3. The lid is split and I can fit an air hose in the gap so gases can also escape. That's not a bad idea, I keep asking about the "expired" water that we have in the office, so far they haven't let me have one lol

Work are fine with it, however I never asked I just bought it all in one day! I actually have 2.

I spend a lot of time on the phone (and most of that on hold) so having something calming to watch has really helped. The Office are fairly relaxed about pets, we have site managers and engineers that bring their dogs to work. We work next to a vet as well so if anyone has a vet appointment the pet stays in the office until home time. Also the fact that I am Bi Polar and suffer from Depression my attendance, and other people's has improved greatly.

I love it, I know that I HAVE to get up and get in to check on my fish. Almost at a point now where I might have to set up a feeding schedule for other people in the office, so many are interested in my latest rescue Ouro. He might actually have a permanent home with another employee when he gets strong enough and most of his issues are repaired.

Here is a shot of my Desk, you can see the 8G in the Corner (Currently occupied by Ouro) and I also have a 2.5g behind the trays that I am planting up for the new year. They're not a massive distraction and they're placed in very low traffic area's (you have to pass my seat to view the tank) so i can control the environmental stresses a little better, unless a Cat is in the office in which case Ouro loves watching them and they love watching him.
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