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Old 12-26-2018, 05:32 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks.

Glad the colours intensify. Will wait and see when my tank stops cycling, and maybe one of them will still be available...

As for nitrates.
Yeah.
The water comes out of my tap at 40. So low nitrates are never going to happen. I do buy some bottled water in, and alternate tap water and bottled, to try stop them rising above 40. Regular water changes help too, of course.
Of course, if I buy fish locally, they are all used to this level of nitrate already.

The diatoms seem to be falling off the plants, which is odd but pleasing.
They are stuck to the wood better.
I'm just using the lights for around 4-6 hours a day, and the plants are growing nicely.

70litre tank: mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, male guppies, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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The last few days have been very eventful. The tank was ready for an occupant, so I checked the 4 mentioned above. And all had been sold. A pity, but I hope they have gone to good homes.

So I found a very handsome HM koi online, and ordered him. Delivery today.

I was on absolute tenterhooks since it was my first online fish order and first postal delivery. It all went without a hitch, except for one minor detail - they sent the wrong fish!

The new arrival is still pale, but seems to be red and white with an iridescent lavender over the top. And a dumbo. Quite stunning, but most definitely NOT a koi!

See pics for what I was expecting, and what I got.

Having contacted the seller, it sounds like my koi and the dumbo got swapped. The seller was profoundly apologetic and is offering/insisting on sending a replacement koi, and asked me to ‘give the dumbo a home’ since returning him 150 miles would be impossible.

His name is Valentine. With those colours, the name chose itself! Mind you, they may change over time. Though I think the name has stuck.

I still haven’t decided whether to accept the koi. I have a couple of days to decide, on account of the new year bank hol. I will have to get a tank organised very quickly, if I do want him.

So my carefully cycled tank now has
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70litre tank: mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, male guppies, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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Here’s another pic to show his silver tipping.
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70litre tank: mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, male guppies, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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I believe your HMEE is called Purple Salamander and he is lovely. He should stay that color. I would still add the Koi. And that is why I am called "The Enabler."

Do not know if this help, but I have used something similar to this Forum's fish-in tutorial for donkey's years and have never, ever hurt a fish or noticed any changes in behavior during cycling. The trick is using SeaChem Prime which detoxifies Free/Toxic Ammonia (NH3) and converts it to Ammonium (NH4). I will warn you that the API Ammonia test measures Total Ammonia (NH3+NH4) so will see NH4 as NH3; why some say you get a false positive using Prime. That is why I recommend anyone using Prime to cycle buy a SeaChem Ammonia Alert which only measures NH3.

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Haha! Enabler, eh? I don’t need any encouragement. I spent the whole of yesterday evening looking at tanks, equipment and positions in the house for tank no 3.

That Seachem cycling instruction could come in VERY useful. Thank you.

But maybe sanity will prevail. We live in a small townhouse, and I don’t like small tanks, so positioning another tank isn’t going to be easy.

As for Valentine being a Purple Salamander... wow... that sounds very impressive. He has just gone up in my estimation! Off to google the name now...

70litre tank: mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, male guppies, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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More pics of Valentine.
Just because he is sitting on my desk now, and I can get nice steady shots of him.
He seems to rather enjoy the attention. Which is a good thing.







There has been a bit of negotiation this morning, over breakfast, and tank No 3 containing koi is reluctantly acceptable to Mr Samphire. The location of the tank though... that discussion is still ongoing.
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70litre tank: mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, male guppies, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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Haha!
Operation Tank3KOI is now fully underway.
Tank, heater and stand ordered. (Fluval flex 57litre)
Waiting for text from LFS tomorrow saying they are ready for collection.

3 small bags of new filter media have been soaked in mature tank water and Waterlife, now sitting ‘brewing’ in Tagawa’s 15g

No time to order substrate and plants so will have to (gasp) go out shopping for them.

Have a ordered Ammonia Alert (thanks for that tip!) and a heater cover for Valentine who looks like he might be a Heater Hugger

70litre tank: mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, male guppies, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.
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Glad you are getting him...he is quite, quite gorgeous and will make a nice compliment to Tagawa and Valentine.

BTW, SeaChem Stability is what I use when cycling a new tank or adding tank mates. In my terms, not technical, it fertilizes the existing nitrifying bacteria and prevents a mini cycle or cycle crash. Sometimes I add it for just the heck of it.

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The usual mild chaos when plans are thrown together at short notice.
- tank and stand have arrived and look great.
Went for the 57litre Fluval flex, mainly because of the back filter chamber (which I can tweak with more filter media) and the lights. Remote control, lots of lighting options, and good for a low tech med-low light plant setup.

Valentine’s plants in the 12inch cube were all chosen for their small leaves and slow growth, so they won’t swamp the tank. Carpet plants. Mosses. Anubias mini mini.

Decided this new tank with have a v different look. I want big tall plants and surface cover, with stems for Kham (the koi) to swim through. A bigish sunken log. Should give small-fish-in-big-forest effect, rather than big-fish-in-nano-planting.
If it works, of course!

And I will aim (longterm) for a gorgeous yellow Mystery snail, like @Old Dog 59 has and as many ember tetras as is appropriate for the tank.
Big snail.
Big plants.
Small fish.
Big cattapa leaves...

Only, no one bothered to tell me that every fish store around is closed (New Year’s Day), so I can neither buy substrate, nor fill and plant today.
Most frustrating!
I wanted the tank to sit for 48hrs before Kham’s arrival.
But i have just lost a whole day!

70litre tank: mature setup; betta, purple rasboras, male guppies, amano and wood shrimp. Heavily planted.
22litre cube tank: (Tagawa); betta, yellow dwarf shrimp. Pond snails and 1 assassin. Heavily planted.
Midnight in the 57litre tank (Midnight) ember tetras, 1 amano, 1 ghost, 1 nerite, pond snails, 1 assassin, doing his thing. Heavily planted.
200litre tank; honey gourami, cherry barbs, green neons, otocinclus, nerites, pond snails, amano. Heavily planted.

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Even though he's not what you ordered, he is so beautiful. I do like elephant ears, and his color is just fantastic. Getting another tank ready so fast for the new one is always fun. Fish in cycle is not that hard. Just beware of Ammonia spikes and with plants you may not have problems with nitrite and nitrate spikes, but they do happen. I would suggest Ammo Lock with each water change and an ammonia alert in the tank. I never thought much of Snails but I must say the 4 mystery snails I did put in just amaze me. The way they climb the plants even the weakest stems they clean the leaves with no problem.
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