Let the debate begin! Pick a Substrate - Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care
Like Tree5Likes
  • 1 Post By Shortnsweet
  • 1 Post By RickyTan
  • 1 Post By OrchidxBetta
  • 1 Post By charliegill110
  • 1 Post By Phish Head
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2019, 11:13 AM Thread Starter
New Member
Emilioepo's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 29
Let the debate begin! Pick a Substrate

Hello everyone!!

Wanted to get some opinions in terms of what substrate to go for on a planted tank looking to get a baby tear or mcarlo carpet and other low tech non-co2 plants.

I'm deciding between fluval stratum, seachem flourite and caribsea eco complete.

what i like and heard about fluval is that it lowers ph my current ph right now is about 7.4 i plan on adding some seiryu stone and i know that will give it a spike so hopefully i can off set it with the dirt and driftwood.

Seachem flourite I've heard not sure if that's the case that it will last for a longer period than any other out there just that at a giving point you need to start adding root tabs which i don't mind. I just don't want to go through the hassle of redoing my tank because i need to replace the substrate, so that's a major plus for me.

caribsea haven't heard much from but I've seen good reviews.

I would be dosing with seachem flourish and root tabs fyi.

Where do you guys feel you get the most bang for your buck ?

Thanks in advance!
Emilioepo is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2019, 12:24 PM
Shortnsweet's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 334
Since you plan on using root tabs and flourish, I feel like any of the above choices would be good! I'm also setting up a tank with low tech non-co2 plants! I'm just using regular gravel in mine but plan on using root tabs but if it doesn't work out then I might possibly switch to a substrate aimed more towards plants.

I have a friend who uses seachem flourite in her planted tank and all of her plants seem to be doing really well! She had tried the fluval stratum before but she found it was definitely a lot more dusty than the flourite but I think that can happen with any of these substrates. She had the fluval stratum shipped to her and figured maybe it just was tossed around a lot in the process because even with some rinsing still had dust issues.

Either way, I'm excited to hear more updates about your tank!
Emilioepo likes this.

<>< Shortnsweet <><
<3 SIP King, Sir Arthur, and Mr. Fish <3
Shortnsweet is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2019, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
New Member
Emilioepo's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 29
Thanks! yea like i explained on my initial post i like fluval because drops my ph and i know the rocks i will be using will raise it. Also like flourite because i wont have to change the substrate in a year or 2 not sure if that's a myth or not and not concerned about the nutrients factor since i will boost with other sources.

Lets see what other have to say
Emilioepo is offline  
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2019, 01:52 PM
Old Dog 59's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Oil City PA. USA
Posts: 1,093
It depends on the tank and what I'm going to have in it. I prefer sand for my betta tanks even tho they are planted. That's what plant tabs are for. For my community tank I used a mix if sand and pebbles and the use of plant tabs again are important. For a cichlid tank I would use Caribsea Eco complete. for cichlids because the PH is adjusted to 8.0 out of the bag and stays that way for me..
Old Dog 59 is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2019, 02:47 PM Thread Starter
New Member
Emilioepo's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 29
I just prefer the darker look, I will only be keeping betta I guess ill decide between the fluval and seachem. I had a root tab on my gravel but It seems like it didn't work out for my dwarf hair grass so far.
Emilioepo is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2019, 03:33 PM
RickyTan's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 260
My order of preference is Aqua soils (ADA amazonia/Fluval stratum) -> Caribsea Eco-complete - > Flourite

We often find our inspiration from nature, so we attempt to imitate it.

Aqua soils are literally made of dirt/soil turned into little balls, rich in nitrogen and great at growing plants, just like what we find in nature. Aqua soils also lower ph, gh, kh of the water making it slightly acidic, which most aquarium plants prefer.

All 3 are capable of good plant growth, but if I had to choose one, considering no budget, I would choose an Aqua soil, if I had a tight budget, I would choose Caribsea eco-complete.
Old Dog 59 likes this.
RickyTan is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2019, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
New Member
Emilioepo's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 29
Thanks for the input ricky!
Emilioepo is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-06-2019, 12:49 PM
OrchidxBetta's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 151
Fluval stratum.

I haven't used the other two before, but I would rather use aqua soil.
Emilioepo likes this.
OrchidxBetta is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-15-2019, 10:04 AM
charliegill110's Avatar
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 812
Personally I just like dirt with sand

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Emilioepo likes this.

1 betta 3 ADF tons of tadpoles 2 snails 1 bird 1 dog
My journal: https://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=560986

My ADF tadpole journal: https://www.bettafish.com/144-journal...s-journey.html
charliegill110 is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-15-2019, 09:06 PM
Phish Head's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: NYC
Posts: 106
I like the aqua soils too and wonder how this stuff would work? (Aquatic Plant Medium)

For an interesting substrate read check out: "The Ecology of The Planted Aquarium" by Diane Walstad.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
Emilioepo likes this.
Phish Head is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome