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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-16-2019, 10:29 PM
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So I think you get at least 1.5 - 2 yrs and you don't have to change it but you'd have to start using root tabs Etc.

Re: just dirt as in the Walstad method I think prepping the soil is a drag and the results unreliable. Aquasoil results are consistent and there aren't any
fine particles stirred up every time you mess with it. It's heavy enough so the plants stay planted but also very porous.

The only downside (besides the cost) is in the beginning Aquasoil leeches a *lot* of ammonium whch is a problem if your PH is over 7. First couple of weeks = lots of water changes and better to wait before adding fish. Capping it with something like pea gravel or whatever would be cool but not necessary.

If I had to choose an inert substrate I really like that Black Diamond Blasting Sand maybe next tank



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So I think you get at least 1.5 - 2 yrs and you don't have to change it but you'd have to start using root tabs Etc.

Re: just dirt as in the Walstad method I think prepping the soil is a drag and the results unreliable. Aquasoil results are consistent and there aren't any
fine particles stirred up every time you mess with it. It's heavy enough so the plants stay planted but also very porous.

The only downside (besides the cost) is in the beginning Aquasoil leeches a *lot* of ammonium whch is a problem if your PH is over 7. First couple of weeks = lots of water changes and better to wait before adding fish. Capping it with something like pea gravel or whatever would be cool but not necessary.

If I had to choose an inert substrate I really like that Black Diamond Blasting Sand maybe next tank



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yea i kind of regret it at this point but lets see how it comes out in the next couple of weeks and I may pick up a bag of fluval stratum now for black friday and have it there as a back up.
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You shouldn't have any regrets with a tank that great looking!



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Thanks! im very happy with the outcome of the tank layout etc just the substrate :D I really enjoy looking at it and i just upgraded my light to a fluval 3.0 nano
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I've heard a lot of good things about that light.

I eventually went with a Finnex clip on also I couldn't justify the cost of the Fluval since I don't know that much about lighting.

I've seen journals where people use
cheap lights yet have spectacular tanks so there's a lot I have to learn and meanwhile I feel like I'm probably over paying for lighting.

BTW that other substrate you're looking at as a backup I think it's overpriced but just my opinion. I think it's marketed as having nutrients but if you start digging they aren't in a form that are biologically available so it might as well be inert. And an inert substrate should be cheap. I have to double check but I'm pretty sure that's the problem with that one but lemme get back to you (I did a mini research project on substrates LoL)

Protip - in case some of your plants don't make it you may want to check out Aquaswap on Reddit.
Loads of plants (and aquarium stuff) at dirt cheap prices. Of course if you're looking for a specific plant you may not find it immediately but with "low tech" set ups there's only so many choices and those are always available.

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Oops sorry my bad on the Fluval substrate.

The disadvantages I found are that it's really light so if you rescape often it will be a pain and unless it's capped it will create a mess. Since it's so light plants with fine roots like carpeting plants and freshly planted stems will float up. It also depletes in half the time as other aquasoils.

The best Aquasoil I looked at is called Denerle (sp?) Scapers soil pricey for sure but I wish I'd gotten it bcs it has all the benefits and doesn't leech a nerve wracking amount of ammonium in the beginning.

Of course all this is just my opinion but I was elbow deep into this stuff for a while.

Another thing about ADA Aquasoil ("Nature Tank" version) is it doesn't make a mess at all. I've been moving things around no problem and it's heavy enough so nothing floats up even the tiny dwarf sagittaria plugs. It hasn't even been two weeks and a couple of small swords have already developed these huge root masses and new leaves.

If budget were the only factor in a soil tank (and I had loads of time) I'd be tempted to try the regular organic or top soil method.



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I went for the fluval light because i got a good deal on it, you dont need a time, you can program and dim lights and many other features.

I know several people that have used the fluval stratum and seen youtubers use it to and it seems like it might be the best bang for your buck in terms of pricing.

I am tempted to the idea of organic soil but that would have to be for my next project if i decide to go that route.

I got a guy online that sells really good plants good quality at a fair price and also a local hobbyist was willing to share some of his trimmings with me.
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May just be the best bang for your buck :)

Does your online guy happen to have an eBay store? I'm always interested in good sources for plants since I find them addicting and like to experiment.

Kind of like an aquaholic is that a word?

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May just be the best bang for your buck :)

Does your online guy happen to have an eBay store? I'm always interested in good sources for plants since I find them addicting and like to experiment.

Kind of like an aquaholic is that a word?

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Thanks for the link! Good find!

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