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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-24-2020, 07:32 PM Thread Starter
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You do have your problems with Nut. If it were me Nut would be in a 5.5 by herself because she just can't behave. I would then find everyone else moving up in tank size. And I would find another betta for the 45 gallon. Only after you get the rest of the mates in the 45 that you want. The betta would be introduced last. Yes he would one day take over and rule but he wouldn't be to quick to start a fight. The other fish would respect their new king.

When I put Morry in the community tank He had just beat up his tank mate Gilford pretty good. I had Cal (my giant gene HM ) in that tank but something went wrong and he started biting his fins and was taken out and put in the tank with Gilford. This worked really well for about 2 months and for unknown reasons Cal died. However Morry is doing so well in the community tank (no fights and he rules the tank. the others vanish when he swims near. ) I found a really beautiful Delta tail named Jasper to put in the tank with Gilford and those two are getting along really well. Gilford has his fins back and Jasper likes having Gilford as a swimming partner.
I feel really crummy even thinking about downsizing Nut, but I am considering it. I rearranged the 45g tank completely today, Nut, Mickey and the Cory's sat in isolation cups/containers in the 10g while the Ram swam around them. Not so sure that was great but it was easiest way to keep them all 'warm' and safe while I was adjusting things.

This is the current state of things in the 45...

I'm pondering moving Nut to the 10 but that's been a tank fraught with such problems I'd really like to let it sit empty for a while if I can. Well, aside from the shrimp.
I'd been considering putting Orion or Osiris in the 10, but also perhaps one of them would be better off in the 45. Probably Osiris since he doesn't have the huge finnage that might be troublesome in so much water. But he's still so small I'm not sure how he'd fare with the other fish.

I took out the silk plant in Ori's 5g, I suspected it was actually hindering his movement through the tank and not providing the support I put it in there for after all. I've seen more of him since I took it out, but he still spends a lot of time hiding - just in case the ginger hitman (my male cat) comes to check on things. I'm wondering if he might actually LIKE the 10g since it has a very closed off feeling to it - black back wall, black lid and a lot of plant and rock hiding spots. But again, that tank has me concerned and the last thing I want is to make Ori sick.

Osiris is happy in the 2.5g but I do think he'd prefer to be in a more active spot, which would mean either the 5g or the 10g at the moment. Unless I move the 2.5g, but I don't like it on my desk - the light is glaring.

Will wait until the end of next week to decide about Ori and Osiris I think. For now I'm just hoping this drama in the 45 settles down so I can leave the 10g empty, however briefly.

I even ordered items for delivery from the chain pet store because I didn't want to go in, I knew I'd come home with someone new!!
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post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-25-2020, 07:23 AM
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Oh my word, You do have a conundrum going on. LOL I really can't tell you which one to put where but I can say this. If you are putting a betta into a 45 gallon I would put the one with less finage into the tank only because of the depth he would have to swim in. I would make sure that this tank (because it has tank mates) was heavily planted with a lot of hides in the plants for all to get away from each other. I really think your stressing over the 10 gallon for no reason. (yes I know you lost one there) but the shrimp are doing well and are alive. They are your barometer in this tank. If there was anything wrong they would be the first thing to vanish. ( well except if you had them in with a betta like my Ben was ( I had cherry shrimp in his tank. Key word here is had.) Ben enjoyed the shrimp. They were a great snack. LOL

I know what ever you are going to do will get the results you want. However I would take the one out of the 2.5 and give him at least a 5.5 gallon of his own. If your going to move them into larger tanks make it in increments according to the size they are in at this time. (just my mind set here, and we all know what I have to work with LOL)
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Well I was out of town for several days, everything was ok while I was gone. Overall.

I think the lights may have been left on a bit long, but no one died, just the algae growth on a couple of tanks was incredible.

I moved Nut to the 2.5g because she showed severe fin damage the day before I had to leave, and I couldn't figure out why in less than 12 hours. She's healed up quite a bit, even in just the week of being in that tank.
She also discovered a new favorite dish, shrimp! She ate 2 of the 4 that were in there. She is now solo Betta.

Orion is still doing well in the 5g, though he now has 1 new shrimp buddy. >.>

Osiris is doing well in the 10g, he also has 1 new shrimp buddy.

The 45g seemed to be doing well, but the last Ram died within 48 hours of appearing ill, which started just after I did a 10% wc on the tank. I don't know what killed him, if it was related to what killed the other two fish he was grouped with. But Mickey (the Angelfish is doing quite well), and so is Nut (aside from that fin issue), and they were in the same tanks at various points - Mickey is still in the 45g.
Everyone else looks to be well, so I'm hoping it was just an issue with the Ram, and not an issue with the tank..
(Honestly, he never looked 100% since whatever went on in the 10g with the other 2 fish)

I also have a new Betta... he's in the second 2.5g that was a plant only tank. I planned to upgrade those two smaller tanks to at least 5g by now but then I got horribly sick and just trying to keep these tanks with clean water and such is about all I can manage. For now he seems to be doing quite all right in there. *fingers crossed*
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Glad to hear all is well. I had to laugh at Nut. Had a shrimp feast did she. LOL Yeah most times I put shrimp into a betta tank they ended up as a snack. I know you will do well with the way you now have everyone staged.
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Glad to hear all is well. I had to laugh at Nut. Had a shrimp feast did she. LOL Yeah most times I put shrimp into a betta tank they ended up as a snack. I know you will do well with the way you now have everyone staged.
She did! A $30 shrimp feast! Or nearly.. LFS gave me a good price thankfully.
Then of course she's acting as though she's starving and should be fed right away!! As though I can't see that full belly and her mouth stuffed with shrimp just moments ago.
(I adore that Nut, absolutely adore her. She's the only fish that demands attention and even affection.)

Surprisingly she seems rather ok with the 2.5g, though she also spends ALL day swimming around, picking through the gravel. I'm still considering whether to move her to something like a 10, or back to the 45 eventually - especially since the Rams are gone. :\

At the moment, the only 2 potential Betta candidates for the 45 are Nut or Osiris, and Os seems alright in his 10g. Though I'd like to add another tall plant or two for him, he bebops around, through the plants and rocks, says hi to the shrimp, and keeps on. He's still the smallest of the Bettas for now.

Orion, and 'Hades' assuming he heals as I think/hope he will, are just too long finned for such a big tank.

I'm also unsure if I should just leave the 45 as is for a while, see what happens with the residents.

The only upgrade I'd consider for Ori is a long 10g, his fins are just too much for a large tank. And Hades.. well, if those fins come out as I suspect they will, he will have some long finnage to contend with too. Besides he's not getting moved much for a while anyhow.

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Sounds like everything is going along just fine. I have to laugh at Nut. She really has you wrapped around her fin. LOL
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Sounds like everything is going along just fine. I have to laugh at Nut. She really has you wrapped around her fin. LOL

She does!! I swear she called out when I walked by at the store, I wasn’t even looking for another Betta then. (Well...)
She knew a good mark when she saw one. 🙂

I’ve got to get video of her with the shrimp (rehydrated freeze dried), she shows what Siamese Fighting Fish is all about. Yikes!!
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