Marble hmpk/ marble dragon Delta - Betta Fish and Betta Fish Care
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post #1 of 88 (permalink) Old 06-30-2016, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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Marble hmpk/ marble dragon Delta

I've been flareing my pair of a couple of days, today Thea escaped the cup! Luckily pokey isn't overly aggressive. He's busy building a nest and Thea is resting/hiding close by I had no intention of letting her lose for a few days even though she has the breeding bars because the male has been stubborn. But she has other plans o.o

This pair is rather mellow Both can successfully live in community tanks and the little girl has no issues being in a sorority.

I don't know if I'm being overly cautious but I'm probably going to remove her if I can get her out of the end of the tank with a the nest -_- she doesn't seem to want me to take her out.. I'm watching them like a hawk because I really don't want to lose either of them

( First ever breeding attempt nervous Nelly)
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Well my fears have kind of been pushed aside they are flirting! She keeps going over to check the nest and then back to the other side of the tank to watch him. Apparently she isn't satisfied yet so he's going to keep building

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I'm definitely not used to the aggression wow! Thea is my first female so I'm being kind of protective :/
I don't even have any ripped fins yet I did notice she lost a scale though. My water is hovering at 80-81f and it's been cycled with a filter (which is off now)


The male can't seem to get his bubbles to stick... they just merge together I'm not sure what would cause that but I think it's frustrating him

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Beautiful pair, good luck!

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Do you have Indian Almond Leaf in your tank? some males are poor bubble nesters, some simply have trouble with the water quality. IAL helps keep the bubbles and makes a safe place for the nest to not get blown apart by air moving over it. You can put bubble wrap in the tank as a docking site for the nest, as well as a styrofoam cup over the area where the nest is.
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Apparently it didn't post earlier but yes have a very nice IAL in there for him he finally figured out bubbles

but I've run into a snag, Thea might have x-factor genes or rose effect genes and I'm not entirely sure i just want to scrap the spawn
Can someone help me out here? I need some advice
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I don't see X factor. I just see some different colored scales
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Edit: noticed she posted the photo I sent her, but it's kind of unclear. So i'm leaving it up.

Hi Sadie, I noticed this last night. A visualization may help, I went in with my art tablet and outlined the scales in the affected areas and labeled them.
Other then what is shown in this photo, the fish has pinched areas in the caudal, dwarfed ventral fins, and a spot with hanging rays on the anal fin. All are indicators of X-factor if you don't see any scaling issues. This fish has a mild case of it. However, because it's genetic and can have significant impact on the lives of the fish, it's best not to breed one with x-factor.


A fish is symmetrical, it should not have any scales at different sizes until the sizing changes based on where the scales fit on the fish(for example, the head or near the base of the caudal).

The best example I have of non-x-factor has always been fish with BSE because the outline of the scale will show where it should match up. This is one of my girls.

The scaling should be next to perfect.
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I did remove her at least for now I'm not going to be home this weekend they have not spawned. I do see a couple of scales in person on her that are slightly larger but the misalignment I can't see looking at her and looks like her coloring in person.
The hanging rays could be caused by something else, I did notice her ventral fins were small but I thought it might h been due to how she was kept before I got her they are also bent like she spent a lot of time resting on them, many fish who have been in cups have bent vents. I noticed it on a couple of my boys too and they definitely don't have any of the other indicators.

I'd like other breeders to take a look too. Over all she's a beautiful fish and I'm kind of holding out hope for her

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