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06-27-2019 06:34 PM
Rainbo I'll start with Corky, so far no change except that at least now I can get him to eat a bit more it just takes a ton of patients and a willingness to have him miss a bunch of the food. No harm done though, he gets daily water changes and the bottom of the tank gets vacuumed during them. So far I've tried Prazipro without any results, and the past two days I've tried Epsom Salt baths again no results. I'm currently giving him a 1 week break from treatment and will try an antibiotic next. If that does not work then I'm just going to leave him live in peace. The cup said he was a halfmoon, I recently got a really good look at the caudal and he's a double tail. His body shape now makes sense and so does the SBD. With that body shape the SBD may well be a congenital defect and permanent.

Ohh I see I did not mention that I nuked all the anacharis in Bruiser's 5 gal tank! Yep, yep, yep, nothing is fool proof for a sufficiently talented fool! I decided to use hydrogen peroxide to kill off the green algae infesting the glass in that tank. As soon as I put in the H2O2 I remembered that anacharis hates it..... So the anacharis died and the algae survived, yay me. I ordered more plants for the tank a few more anubia, more anacharis, and some octopus plants, along with some drift wood. It didn't come out too bad, but I need to add more sand to the tank. The driftwood was larger then I thought it would be and I had to uproot some of the crypts in the tank which left the roots of some of the others exposed. I am NOT looking forward to washing the new sand (it came in today) nope not at all.

Bruiser looks much the same, no improvement on the grey spot on his anal fin, but he's very active, and does not seem sick. I'm not sure if the UV sterilizer is helping at all.

Cinnabar puzzles me. He does not seem to want to eat as much, weight wise this is not a bad thing, but still patrols his tank and such. I'm not sure if I should be worried about his not wanting as much food or not.

Picasso, my original double tail, has decided not to marble any more and is staying a black.

Lagniappe still rules his 3 gal kingdom and seems very happy to be back on the counter where he can see everything that goes on in there.

Some pictures of the crew. Corky is the blue boy laying sideways. Bruiser is the blue veiltail, Lagniappe is the yellow boy, Picasso is the black one, and Cinnabar is the reddish boy.
06-15-2019 02:34 PM
Rainbo Update on Corky. It's been a week since I rescued him and so far I have not seen much improvement. He is extremely skittish, he'll dart away if I try to finger feed him or if I move to much while watching him. I feed him by dropping the food on his betta hammock it's not a perfect system but at least he eats a bit before sweeping the food to the bottom of the tank. Once on the bottom the food usually remains uneaten. He still has lots of difficulty swimming, but does seem to be able to maintain an upright position a bit easier. Today I cupped him and rinsed his hospital tank out, rinsed off the artificial plant, anacharis, heater, and betta hammock, and gave him 75% new water (I saved 25% of the old water), added PraziPro to the tank, and put him back in. He was not happy being cupped, nope not at all.

I'm wondering if a parasite is the reason for the continued SBD, which is the reason for the PraziPro. A week of clean, warm, water (he gets daily 50% water changes) did not work, so I figure I'll start trying other cures, one by one.

Below is a picture of him, his color depends on what the lighting is.
06-11-2019 02:39 PM
Rainbo Well today's day 3 and Corky, the new boy with SBD is still with me. He seems a little bit better today and while he still struggles to swim he seems to be able to maintain an upright position a little better. He's very skittish and hasn't yet learned that my finger delivers food, and not the touch of death, yet each day he seems a little less scared. The poor thing is very hard to feed if the food does not fall directly in front of his mouth he will not go after it, any food on the bottom of the tank will remain uneaten. I'm hoping that he'll learn that he can easily get food that falls on the betta hammock and eat from there. I remain unsure if the SBD is permanent or temporary.

I'm fixing to tick Lagniappe off. It's time to move his tank back to my counter and last time I moved him he was very, very, upset to be placed in the cup. Good news is that he seems to like his tank on the counter rather then where I have it now. Where it is now he doesn't get to see nearly as much as he did when he was on the counter.
06-08-2019 07:09 PM
Rainbo So far so good with all my boys. Cinnabar remains fat and sassy. Bruiser is doing well, no real change with him since adding the UV sterilizer but I remain hopeful that it'l help. He patrols his tank, picks fights with his filter, and works on his bubble nest. Picasso is still going through his black phase, he went from a lovely white and cellophane betta, to a black one with rust red on his fins. Lagniappe is doing well. I temp moved his tank and he was highly upset about being cupped. After I moved him I tried feeding him around an hour later, the brat would flare at my finger before eating the food LOL.

I went and did a thing today. I went to PetSense, home of the worlds sickest betta.... I spotted a dead betta in one of the cups, the poor thing was laying flat on it's side floating at the top of the cup, so I reached towards the cup. The betta then started swimming around spastic. Seems someone has SBD. I asked the employee if I could get a discount on him. Nope, not happening. She said they'd take him to the back where it's warmer and see if fasting him would fix the problem. In other words they weren't going to do anything but wait and see if he'd die. He came home with me. We'll see if a low water level, warm water, no stress, and lots of plants will help him. Fingers crossed, he'll be a stunning betta if he pulls through.

Here's a picture of him in the hospital tank. It's my 2.5 gal with only 1 gal of water in it. His anal fin is grey due to the light and camera angle. He has a lot of iridescence to him.
05-28-2019 02:21 PM
Rainbo Well the UV sterilizer got here yesterday, and is installed. Hopefully if it's pathogens in the water column that are causing the grey patches on Bruiser's fins it'll kill them off. Then maybe Bruiser's immune system will have a chance to kill off the ones that are in him since he won't be constantly reinfected. At least that's what the guy in the TFH article thinks happened with his tank. I guess time will tell if it works.

I know that technically I should probably put him down because there's a high chance that it's Mycos, but I cannot even get myself to rationally consider it. He's so active and other then the grey patch seems perfectly healthy.

The first picture is Mercury 2 months after the grey patch first appeared on him. The second one is Bruiser and was taken yesterday, the grey patch appeared around a month ago. The similarity is why I'm so worried that whatever took Mercury from me is infecting Bruiser....
05-28-2019 01:56 PM
Rainbo
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Darn, I'm curious, what food to you use for the corys? Maybe its the same as mine and maybe its just super yummy to them haha.

I'm not sure how skittish your corys are, but for me, it helps to feed the betta at the same time on one side of the tank (especially if its something like dropping in a bunch of bloodworms) and then feeding the corys at the same time on the other side. Might help distract the betta haha.

Besides that, if its really an issue, you could either fashion a divider you can put in before feeding them and take out in the morning after, or you could try to net your betta during feeding or put him in a floating hospital tank or something in the main tank. *shrug* that might stress out the betta unnecessarily though.
LOL I tried the feed on the other side of the tank trick. The problem is that the brat has learned that when the cory cats congregate and start searching for food he should search for it to! He's a pig I tell ya I'd feed him, he'd finish his food, then go down to where the cory cats were and start getting their food. The cory cats don't mind him too much, they stay back a bit from him but don't swim off. I've never seen Cinnabar bother them.

I feed the Cories the same thing I feed Cinnabar. They get Fluval bug bites, frozen bloodworms, and frozen brine shrimp. I rotate between the food
05-28-2019 12:53 PM
blubird101 Darn, I'm curious, what food to you use for the corys? Maybe its the same as mine and maybe its just super yummy to them haha.

I'm not sure how skittish your corys are, but for me, it helps to feed the betta at the same time on one side of the tank (especially if its something like dropping in a bunch of bloodworms) and then feeding the corys at the same time on the other side. Might help distract the betta haha.

Besides that, if its really an issue, you could either fashion a divider you can put in before feeding them and take out in the morning after, or you could try to net your betta during feeding or put him in a floating hospital tank or something in the main tank. *shrug* that might stress out the betta unnecessarily though.
05-28-2019 12:42 PM
Rainbo
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Odd question, with the tank that has Cinnabar in it, do you feed the corys with the lights on? Or do you have a blue light or something you turn on at night?

Bettas hunt by light, so if you have the lights off in the room they are in as well as in the tank, he shouldn't be able to find the corys food. I'm not 100% sure how corys hunt, but I know they are more active at night and when I drop a piece of food on the other side of the tank, they seem to "smell" it out.

My betta also loves to pick at the corys sinking pellets haha, but if I feed when all the lights are dark, he doesn't seem to notice it.

Just a thought, in case you haven't tried that. :)
Yep, I've tried feeding them at night. I shut the tank lights off around 7 or 8 PM, and then shut the room lights off so that the only light in the room is from other adjacent rooms. I would then feed the cory cats and if I came back a couple min later and shined a flash light into the tank, there was Cinnabar at the bottom of the then eating the cory cats food.
05-28-2019 08:09 AM
blubird101 Odd question, with the tank that has Cinnabar in it, do you feed the corys with the lights on? Or do you have a blue light or something you turn on at night?

Bettas hunt by light, so if you have the lights off in the room they are in as well as in the tank, he shouldn't be able to find the corys food. I'm not 100% sure how corys hunt, but I know they are more active at night and when I drop a piece of food on the other side of the tank, they seem to "smell" it out.

My betta also loves to pick at the corys sinking pellets haha, but if I feed when all the lights are dark, he doesn't seem to notice it.

Just a thought, in case you haven't tried that. :)
05-24-2019 01:25 PM
Rainbo Well, most of the boys are doing very well.

Cinnabar is continuing to gorge himself on the cory cats food so he remains fat, I'm trying to figure out a way to contain him while the cories eat without spooking the cories and causing them to go into hiding and so not eating besides stressing the little things out. There's got to be a way and I'm not not seeing it!

Lagniappe has turned into a real beauty and is full of personality. He's been voted most likely to bite my finger off if only he was bigger!

Picasso is still changing colors and loves having the 10 gal all to himself. His main problem is he was badly bred and seems to have trouble swimming, not to worry though his tank is loaded with plants. I'm thinking of treating him for parasites and see if that helps him gain weight.

Bruiser has me a bit worried, a while back I noticed a grey patch on his tail, and have been keeping an eye on it. It scares the heck out of me because that's exactly how poor Mercury's trouble started. The patch is only on one side of the anal fin and it seems to be growing every so slowly. He also split that fin awhile back and it's not healed at all :'-(. I should also mention that there's what looks like streaks of grey on the other side of his fin. Other then that he's very active, builds bubble nest, has a great appetite, basically he's the same as ever. Knowing better then to jack around with medicine given they did not help Mercury at all, I"m going to try UV sterilization. I read an article where someone is saying that it's what saved his fish from a Myco outbreak. I figure it's worth a shot. Apparently the UV kills off the Myco in the water and gives the fish a chance to fight off the Myco attacking them. This is the unit that I have coming on Monday https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051C62IQ

Here's the article I read Mycobacteriosis, the Stealth Disease | Details | Articles | TFH Magazine®
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