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05-15-2012 07:21 PM
Wolfboy51 Thanks for all your help guys :D questions like the one i asked make me curious. Itll probably kill me one day.
05-15-2012 04:13 AM
Sheldon31
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Originally Posted by MrVampire181 View Post
Male bettas provide extended care of their fry. Unless you've actually seen it in person you can't say they can or cannot be depressed by such a thing. Now I don't believe they have that higher intelligence but they really do mope around and hate life when they're removed from their batch.

@DQ, that's happened to me. They never can stay in the net >:[
I'm sure it's because of instinct? Like puppies miss their mothers when they go to new homes or miss their brothers and sisters. It's probably instinct or routine. I'd love to breed to see a father doing all the work JK..
05-15-2012 04:10 AM
Sheldon31
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Originally Posted by Bombalurina View Post
You can also damage the fish's slime coat. I don't do unless the betta seeks my hand out.

Usually, when one of my fish comes up to my hand, it's to bite me.
I have been bitten or almost bitten every time I put my hands in the tank.. It's quite a funny feeling :D I say he's kissing me even though he's actually hoping I have food but I prefer the former.
05-15-2012 02:18 AM
jeffegg2
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Originally Posted by Bombalurina View Post
You can also damage the fish's slime coat. I don't do unless the betta seeks my hand out.

Usually, when one of my fish comes up to my hand, it's to bite me.
+1

Fish have a slime coat that can be damaged... If you must touch them, then very gently and not too often..
05-15-2012 02:09 AM
MrVampire181 Male bettas provide extended care of their fry. Unless you've actually seen it in person you can't say they can or cannot be depressed by such a thing. Now I don't believe they have that higher intelligence but they really do mope around and hate life when they're removed from their batch.

@DQ, that's happened to me. They never can stay in the net >:[
05-15-2012 01:19 AM
dramaqueen The only time I ever touched mine was when they fell on the floor.



05-15-2012 01:13 AM
thekoimaiden Ohh drat! If only I was at home. I have a wonderful ichthyology textbook that talks a ton about fish intelligence and brain capacity. Fish don't have the higher functioning for emotions like love and depression. The brain capacity just isn't there even in the smartest fish, the elephant noses. Fish don't get depressed. Fish get stressed.

About the slime coat. Touching a fish can damage the slime coat as Bomba said. The slime coat is the fish's protective layer against pathogens (in this manner it functions similarly to our skin). Fish will produce extra slime coat when stressed to try to prevent pathogens from taking hold (ever held a carp? you'll see and feel what I mean ). I'm pretty sure there is some research that has been done on the importance of fish slime coats. Maybe poking around on google scholar or pubmed will find you an article. I'll look in my fish library when I get home to see if I can find anything.
05-14-2012 11:54 PM
Laki Not sure if they have the brain function that allows higher functions like love, empathy and depression. Depression, in humans at least, is caused by a low level of serotonin. Depression occurs in a very specific area of the brain (maybe brain stem or frontal lobes) and is there any proof that bettas have that??

**it might be totally different in a fish their size.

But to be safe, I would attribute the "depression" to stress or familiarity moreso than a complex brain function like depression.

Also, +1 to the slime coat thing. Lude shed his slime once!! It's not nice and people who pet their fish can activate that. Maybe the fish was "special" ;p
05-14-2012 11:42 PM
Sivan Bom: That is what I heard! I could not remember the specific detail because I heard it a long time ago. I do not feel comfortable answering without sufficient proof or recollection of detail. I will take a look to see if I can find a trusted non-forum source to back up this information.

Any info on the depression, though?
05-14-2012 11:27 PM
JKfish Haha +1 Bombalurina XD Same with mine, they like to chomp and hang on
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