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09-01-2010 05:53 PM
puppyrjjkm Well the snails would be teeny not the large mystery snails. So it wouldn't be too much waste. I am thinking just some shrimp and snails though.... anyone have other advice?
08-31-2010 08:29 PM
ReyesBetta If you put in 2 snails there will DEFINATELY be enough waste. Those things are NASTY. I still don't have one but I want one. :)
08-31-2010 05:07 PM
JKfish If putting fish in is an option, I'd say don't bother with the fish. The snails and or shrimp could easily survive and hopefully make enough waste for the plants :)
08-30-2010 06:20 PM
puppyrjjkm
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My guess is the aim of this project is to teach students how to create a miniature ecosystem in a jar, even if it doesn't properly replicate a real thriving pond, and watch how it evolves and changes over the course of 2-3 months. I'm sure they will test it, monitor it, and learn from their mistakes.
You are correct. This completely sums up the point of this project. My teacher is a environment guru, tree hugger, nature guy, worked for forest service/fish wildlife parks. Anyway he is a really good guy and has good morals (he's taught all my siblings too). Anywho we learned just a tad more today. He supplies the "jars" which are about 1 gallon pickle jars he reuses every year. However, my partner and I are taking it "a step up" and are going to use I don't remember the proper name, but it has 3 seperate hexagon 1 gallon containers that are connected so as organisms can move between sections. One will be aquatic (the jar we were speaking of), one will be terestrial, and the other a "compost" or "landfill" section. We literally had 10 mins to start this so once again don't have full details, sorry. So two groups will be using seperate "3 section ecosystems" while the rest of the class will just be using the gallon jars. Today we put in gravel substrate that he supplied, seemed to have some soil in it. And we filled it with water, took pH, and temperature. We will be monitoring it, testing certain things, etc. throughout the experiment. We will have the option to add plants, fish, snails, shrimp I'm not 100% sure on. Later on we will be visiting ponds/rivers that we will be allowed to bring plants or other organisms from the river to add to our ecosystem as the project continues. This is about all the info. I have at this point. Please continue giving ideas, facts, or anything else. I really appreciate it! :) Thanks so much!
08-30-2010 05:45 PM
zelilaa woah O.O Honestly in my opinion this sounds like a fun project! BUT- I'd get the two gallon chees puff container plastic jars from target. Not some silly little jar. And I'd ONLY have shrimp not live bearers!! Theres no way I'd sucumb a fish to that.. it would never live. SHRIMPIES ONLY! i <3 shrimps. Dey no poopy much, you can a lot, and there sooo much fun :3 but ur required to haave fish... THATS just cruel thats mean :(
08-30-2010 05:19 PM
JKfish +1 for Adastra, but also +1 for Phoxly. You both have good points.

If you make sure to add plants that you know the fish could eat if needed, it's possible they will survive for some time. Ask your teacher what sort of fish he will be supplying you with, and research what they eat in the wild, maybe if they are herbivors, you can purchase the plants they need?
08-30-2010 05:06 PM
Phoxly I don't think we really have enough detail on the actual project to be saying someone should go to hell over it... No offense. If it is just a snail or two with a shrimp then my guess is this is no big deal.

It is about as bad as buying a shrimp platter from walmart, or disecting a frog that was mass produced and raised in captivity just for the cause of being able to disect it in classrooms across the nation.

My guess is the aim of this project is to teach students how to create a miniature ecosystem in a jar, even if it doesn't properly replicate a real thriving pond, and watch how it evolves and changes over the course of 2-3 months. I'm sure they will test it, monitor it, and learn from their mistakes.

As I said before, there's no way to pass judgement on this class without knowing the full rubric and requirements. They haven't even set a requirement for the glass jar size, which seems weird to me.
08-30-2010 07:54 AM
betta fish crazy In third grade I saw an ecosphere at a muesuem in New York. You could buy them but at that time we lived in MN and they could not ship it there.
08-30-2010 02:24 AM
metalbetta PETA angers me. lol
08-30-2010 01:18 AM
prettylittlefishy Or to PETA... But I can't say that because they're against people having pet's all togethor.
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