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Tree 02-10-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kittenfish (Post 3898097)
Poke the substrate and do water changes. I had high ammonia/nitrites for the first two weeks (using Miracle Gro), during which I did lots of water changes and added extra Prime in between. I'm currently mineralizing some soil for my next tank, which is supposed to reduce initial spikes and algae.

thanks =D

right now everything looks fine. One of my poor Nerite snails got a beating from the ammonia spike I missed. But now he is moving around a little more. I am just lucky that it didn't bother my little girl Perch.

here are my four NPT setups. I had to upgrade one of my lights though, it was too low for the plants.

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...mi-d6y47ph.jpg

kittenfish 02-11-2014 05:59 PM

What lights are those? I'm looking for something for a 3.5 gallon.

DBanana 02-11-2014 07:44 PM

The water has cleared up nicely on the new 5g.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83...psb272940e.jpg

Tree 02-11-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kittenfish (Post 3903457)
What lights are those? I'm looking for something for a 3.5 gallon.


the top right tank is a 3 gallon that has a 3.5 wat LED light: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I would go for that for an LED, though I heard that these work very well:
http://www.amazon.com/Fluval-Mini-Po...petsupplies_12

but it was too expensive for my taste and I was reading that the light burns out rather quickly.

Mashiro 02-12-2014 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree (Post 3899065)
thanks =D

right now everything looks fine. One of my poor Nerite snails got a beating from the ammonia spike I missed. But now he is moving around a little more. I am just lucky that it didn't bother my little girl Perch.

here are my four NPT setups. I had to upgrade one of my lights though, it was too low for the plants.

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...mi-d6y47ph.jpg


Tree, where did you get those bottom two tanks? I like them a lot, but can't seem to find them online. Also what size are they?

Araielle 02-12-2014 03:50 PM

Just now getting around to posting this. I don't want to leave the sponge filter in there. I also don't want to add many more plants. I'm thinking maybe some dwarf hair grass or something on the bottom, but I don't want to take any swimming room up for the fish. I will be adding a heater. Should I go ahead and remove the filter seeing how I don't want to leave it in there? I was thinking the good bacteria would live in it and if I take it out it won't be good for the tank. Thoughts & advice are appreciated.

http://i.imgur.com/0E9uPhS.jpg

kman 02-12-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mashiro (Post 3909970)
Tree, where did you get those bottom two tanks? I like them a lot, but can't seem to find them online. Also what size are they?

I saw those at PetSmart the other day. Top Fin, I think about 2.5 gals?

EDIT: Yup:

http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...AvailInUS%2FNo

FishyFishy89 02-12-2014 03:55 PM

I just found a brilliant idea to make dirting an established tank easy!
This is from SlappyMcFish on MAC
"Mix the dirt with a little water (enough to make a thick mud). Pour it in a shallow pan to a depth of about 1" or so and freeze it. You can do several smaller ones or one large one and cut it into squares (6X6", 8X8", etc).You can then take the frozen flat squares of dirt and place them in the tank by shimmying them under the substrate or moving the substrate aside and placing the frozen dirt on the tank bottom and recovering them with the substrate. Work quickly as the frozen dirt will begin to thaw immediately in the tank water."

To put this into work, just remove about 50% of your water to make working in the tank easier, remove all plants. Can also remove the fish if you want to and have fun in your substrate!

kman 02-12-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FishyFishy89 (Post 3910138)
I just found a brilliant idea to make dirting an established tank easy!
This is from SlappyMcFish on MAC
"Mix the dirt with a little water (enough to make a thick mud). Pour it in a shallow pan to a depth of about 1" or so and freeze it. You can do several smaller ones or one large one and cut it into squares (6X6", 8X8", etc).You can then take the frozen flat squares of dirt and place them in the tank by shimmying them under the substrate or moving the substrate aside and placing the frozen dirt on the tank bottom and recovering them with the substrate. Work quickly as the frozen dirt will begin to thaw immediately in the tank water."

To put this into work, just remove about 50% of your water to make working in the tank easier, remove all plants. Can also remove the fish if you want to and have fun in your substrate!

I think disturbing the substrate that much would likely produce a lot of mulm in the water column and lead to water quality issues. Probably best to empty the tank completely, and wash the substrate thoroughly (using treated water, of course, so as to not kill all the beneficial bacteria) before replacing it, and then replanting. Also, that much ice in the tank is going to drop the water temps precipitously, which can lead to Ich, so best to get all that done and the tank refilled, water calm, clear and re-heated, before returning anything living. The tank will almost certainly go through a mini-cycle, so will need to watch for ammonia spikes and do a lot of water changes for the first week.

FishyFishy89 02-12-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kman (Post 3910754)
I think disturbing the substrate that much would likely produce a lot of mulm in the water column and lead to water quality issues. Probably best to empty the tank completely, and wash the substrate thoroughly (using treated water, of course, so as to not kill all the beneficial bacteria) before replacing it, and then replanting. Also, that much ice in the tank is going to drop the water temps precipitously, which can lead to Ich, so best to get all that done and the tank refilled, water calm, clear and re-heated, before returning anything living. The tank will almost certainly go through a mini-cycle, so will need to watch for ammonia spikes and do a lot of water changes for the first week.

The soil is supposed to be capped anyhow, so you don't need to remove your substrate and rinse it.(many planted tank forums are referring soil to dirt, not sure if you are aware of that).
And like I said, you can remove the fish, they can remain in another container and remain heated. Once everything is settled down, the tank will be warm enough again and your fish can go back into the tank.


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