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pnwbetta 12-23-2019 09:54 AM

Tank Design gripe
 
Really frustrated with the lack of foresight on tank lids. Either the tanks don't have lids (OK, that's the purchasers visual preference I suppose), or they have full lids with rather large openings and no caps. Not even a "filler" cap sold by the company.

Instead we, the consumer, are left to jerry rig some ridiculous cover for oddly, and often pointlessly, designed openings in the tank lids.

Why is that?
I couldn't even find mesh at any of the local pet stores and I went to 3. I had to use saran wrap on one tank lid. After that tank started looking funky and had constant overhead moisture issues, despite my leaving small air gap, I didn't think it would be a good idea to block the flow entirely on the new tank. I also didn't think a betta could jump quite that high.

I was wrong on both counts.

But it shouldn't take us losing our fish to figure out that:
1. they are capable of jumping incredible distances
2. they need tight lids without uncapped holes already built in as options!

I'm not sure I want to mess with these now fish empty tanks because the manufacturers can't figure out that a $.30 part is a needed feature.

Really frustrated and upset at myself at the moment.

RussellTheShihTzu 12-23-2019 05:19 PM

Try craft mesh. Comes in enough colors to blend in with the lid.

pnwbetta 12-23-2019 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RussellTheShihTzu (Post 1852525782)
Try craft mesh. Comes in enough colors to blend in with the lid.

I actually ordered some not long ago, hoping it helps other inhabitants going forward. Just wish it had arrived sooner.

RussellTheShihTzu 12-23-2019 09:33 PM

I know what you mean, though, about impossible tanks. That's why I gave up and started buying a plain tank and furnishing with the equipment I wanted.

Good luck. Hope the mesh works for you.

pnwbetta 12-23-2019 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RussellTheShihTzu (Post 1852525788)
I know what you mean, though, about impossible tanks. That's why I gave up and started buying a plain tank and furnishing with the equipment I wanted.

Good luck. Hope the mesh works for you.

That's a good point, I suppose that's what I'll do going forward. I do love the quietness of the fluval filters though. That's about all I am enamored with though.

And thank you.

RussellTheShihTzu 12-23-2019 10:46 PM

Can you buy the same Fluval filter separately?

This one is on my 2.5 gallon and right next to me on my end table. I never hear it. Fully adjustable.
FORZA 5-15 Power Filter PFE-1 - 45GPH

Another good, quiet filter (on the tanks against the wall next to my end of the sofa LOL) is the AquaClear CycleGuard. These are two 20 long tanks divided x 3 with two 20 and one 30 on each; so six filters + the TruAqua PFE. CycleGuard is also fully adjustable.

I think I fully outfitted a 5.5 with Finnex Stingray for around $75 and a 10 gallon with same for not much difference. Might be more now as the lights have gone up in price a bit.

Stingray

Anyway, I've taken you off-topic a bit but hope the information is useful to you in future.

pnwbetta 12-24-2019 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RussellTheShihTzu (Post 1852525798)
Can you buy the same Fluval filter separately?

This one is on my 2.5 gallon and right next to me on my end table. I never hear it. Fully adjustable.
FORZA 5-15 Power Filter PFE-1 - 45GPH

Another good, quiet filter (on the tanks against the wall next to my end of the sofa LOL) is the AquaClear CycleGuard. These are two 20 long tanks divided x 3 with two 20 and one 30 on each; so six filters + the TruAqua PFE. CycleGuard is also fully adjustable.

I think I fully outfitted a 5.5 with Finnex Stingray for around $75 and a 10 gallon with same for not much difference. Might be more now as the lights have gone up in price a bit.

Stingray

Anyway, I've taken you off-topic a bit but hope the information is useful to you in future.


I think so. I'll certainly look into it. Fluval current design is a side pocket system the pulls the water in over the side filter so that wouldn't set up in another tank very well I don't imagine.
I will check out those filters though because I went through several in the original/temp tank I bought and nothing was quiet. I couldn't imagine the tanks in a living space at that decibel - or even for the fish IN those tanks!

The fluval 5g has an adjustable flow and is almost completely silent. The 9g, not so much but its not noticeable outside a few feet.

I'm definitely interested in any filter that's quiet AND adjustable! I'm not giving up on fish any time soon.

:)

Thank you again!

Half-Moon 12-24-2019 07:32 AM

I absolutely agree with your point! My tank lid has a hole in the front (meant to be a sort of hole to feed the fish through) as well as a gap at the back, and I am constantly worried that my betta will end up jumping out of the tank - even though that it is near enough impossible as he would have to position himself in an exact way.


All the best of luck on finding a suitable lid/cover and a filter, keep us updated and don't give up!

Old Dog 59 12-24-2019 07:58 AM

Been reading this thread and I have to say with the new designer tanks on the market, there is a very distinct lack of engineering. Yes they look so cool but they are not always usable for the needs of the fish. Yep you and your friends think the tanks are really neat but when it comes down to really being usable, Not so much. They have built in filters (great) what happens when they go bad? They can't be replaced and no other filter fits. Their tops have holes for feeding but no door just open space.

Yeah I went through this phase too, but I thought long and hard about the tank and how it would be used. Then I bought a regular 5.5, 10, 20 gallon or better. I then bought separate filters and heaters to place in them and a glass canopy, with a clear plastic back piece that I could cut to the exact size for the opening of the filter, heater and airline tubing. It has a lid to open and close for feeding and water changes. They keep the fish in and other animals out. No need for mesh or plastic wrap and the tank does the job it was meant for.

It does not cost any more than the designer tank and has all the needs taken care of . Oh Yes it looks like a regular tank. But when things fail, and they will, I can replace them easily and know the whole tank doesn't need to be replaced. I saw today in the Petsmart add they have a starter Top Fin 5.5 tank for $20.00 has the tank top Led light ( low light) and an adjustable filter (Top Fin 10) (They are a great filter by the way I have them in all my 5.5 and a Top fin 40 in my 10 gallon.) All you need to buy extra is the heater, substrate, plants, and fish.

In conclusion I find the new designer tanks not worth the price you pay to impress you and your friends. But then again I'm an Old Keeper and set in my ways and I find that the old tank style just does fine for keeping fish safe and happy.

pnwbetta 12-24-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Half-Moon (Post 1852525802)
I absolutely agree with your point! My tank lid has a hole in the front (meant to be a sort of hole to feed the fish through) as well as a gap at the back, and I am constantly worried that my betta will end up jumping out of the tank - even though that it is near enough impossible as he would have to position himself in an exact way.


All the best of luck on finding a suitable lid/cover and a filter, keep us updated and don't give up!

Yes! That lovely feeding hole that should have a cap on it. Stupid design to not have it. And I didn't think Jasper could, or would, get the inkling to angle himself just so to shoot out of a hole that's barely noticeable - esp in the dark. When I first saw the empty tank I thought if anything he'd jumped the small divide in the back and ended up in the filter area - which would have at least left him with water.. and alive.

I'll make these two tanks work for now but I highly doubt I'll ever go with a pre-done build again.

I think if your betta hasn't jumped yet he's not aiming for it anytime soon. *fingers crossed*


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