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So Sebastian made the trip to school fine and was totally fine the first week here. During the weekend before last he went on a tail bitting spree and ate the rest of his dorsal fin that was remaining from his last nomming experience and the upper part of his tail. I could only start a salt treatment on the 18th because my friend had to use my tank for her more serious case of fin rot. Sebastian now has only 4 more days of treatment, and his dorsal is healling fine. However, his tail now has more rips and chunks missing than before. Could it be possible that he has fin rot even though I kept his water clean in his 2 gallon before I could start treatment? (Clean as in 2x 50% and 1x 100% water changes)
 

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K so since I didn't get any replies I will try another question at the same time as bumping. The salt treatment is almost over, and I was wondering if there was any other things I could do to help speed the healing of his fins aside from water changes as they seem to not be working. He just keeps tearing up what has healed from his tail and now he has munched some more off.

I'm becoming desperate here!
 

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you can add green defaf tea bag to the water for the tannins it puts out i think (having a brain spaz at the mment)
 

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you can add green defaf tea bag to the water for the tannins it puts out i think (having a brain spaz at the mment)

I tried that the last time he ate his fins and he majorly freaked out, like crazy pale with stripes freaked out. Is there a way to help getting a fish used to the tea so he doesn't freak?
 

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yeh like anything else introduce it over time. Next waterchange prep the water the day before and soak a bag in it and then when you do the waterchange have the bag in the tank before releasing him and he will get use to it or hide in behind some plants so hes like "swimming swimming...OH HAI!"
 

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usually the tea bag stays in ive not tried it id be worried my boys would nip at it....you can also use indian almond leaves
 

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If your Betta does not react good with green tea, don't add it in again, every Betta is different and some react differently with green tea. If you want to speed up healing, you can try Stress Coat, that works too and speeds up the regeneration of his fins.

Other than that, I have no other advice.
 

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i was being as helpful as i could. I dont use stress coat at all
 

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No, I understand. Decaf green tea just doesn't really have much to it other than darkening the water. I think it has more chance to cause problems than it does to help. I've tried it a few times with little success.

Keeping the tank dark either with a dark room or a towel over the tank seems to do just as well, if not better, than decaf green tea.
 

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His little QT tank is covered with a cloth so it's dark. Can krill be baught at the pet store, like in a frozen or freeze-dried state? I'm already feeding him pellets and they have 36% crude protein so it was the highest amount I could find in my area. I'm going home on the weekend so I will see if I can pick up any stress coat and krill or something when I'm home.
 

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for me tail biting, with JUST water changes upped i see new growth before the first weeks out
 

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And thanks again guys for all the help! Poor Sebastian just looks very pathetic and like he had a fight with a lawnmower. I think he is just doing this to spite me. :|
 

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for me tail biting, with JUST water changes upped i see new growth before the first weeks out
Not for me. It usually takes using AQ salt for a couple days. He will just keep bitting the new growth so nothing new shows. The salt speeds it up enough usually that the growth is faster than he can chew.

He is just a little over-achiever.
 

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I know for sure Petsmart sells Hikari Freeze Dried Krill. Just soak it to soften it up a little bit before giving it to him, or you could even just give him a little chunk to work on(I give without soaking since my boys are vicious).

I think Walmart sells freeze dried krill as well. they do sell freeze dried meal worms, but I find bettas a little bit put off by them at first.

Freeze dried has the same value as frozen, it just needs to be soaked beforehand for most cases.
 

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Sorry for all of these questions, but does this look like just tail/fin bitting to you? The hanging peices on his ventral fin have now just completely fallen off. This has happened in ~3 hours, but it looked strange and had some bubbles on it an hour after I changed his water today (~3pm). I am almost positive that the ventral fin damage is him chewing, but it almost seams like something else is going on with his tail in addition to bitting (as he swims in circles to remind me :evil:). It just keeps splitting!

Sorry for being such a paranoid fish mommy and thanks again!

(pictures are very large so sorry in advance :oops:)
 

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I would say with 99.9% certainty that your male is tail biting. Two of my males tail bite severely on a regular basis, while another two do it more infrequently.

One of my HM males recently bit his tail down almost to his body (shorter even than plakat length). Since it's now so far down he can't reach it, it's just starting to grow back. It takes a few days for the initial regrowth to start, but then it generally starts filling in more quickly.

Honestly, aquarium salt isn't going to really do much. Its only purpose is to prevent infection, but if you are meticulous with water changes, a healthy fish should have no problems regrowing even major damage without issue.

I wouldn't bother with salt or extracts. Using IAL in my tanks has never mad any difference in the health or behaviour of my bettas. Also if you have a chronic tailbiter it can cause problems in itself if you are regularly dosing salt to combat possible infection. I'd recommend simply maintaining excellent water quality and feeding a good, high-protein diet.
 

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This is happening with one of my VTs, and mum gave me grief every time I drain the tank to keep his water clean. He has ripped off a whole chunk of his tail, and has made his tail more jagged since that episode. I changed water, used stress coat, moved the ornaments and plant around, and he still did it. I often catch myself thinking, god, why can't I spank fish!?
Going to try using black water extract next...
 
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