Hi, I cant quite tell from the picture but does the lump by the fin look like a ulcer?
I found a few pictures of him before I used the Tetra all-in-one and I have some from before I moved him to his 10 gallon tank and treated him for fin rot. I don't really think it changes? Some days it seems more noticeable to me, but I'm not really sure. Sometimes I can see the one near his fin a lot more than the one on his head. I don't think it's gotten bigger or changed color though.Do you have any before pictures? Also has it changed at all like opened up more through the day's?
Hi. I can't really tell either. I'm not very experienced with fish diseases. Are ulcers more red in color? His spots look brown to me and I'm pretty sure they're not open wounds because there's nothing sharp in his tank. Here's another picture from the top view. He's swimming around a lot today so it was hard to focus on him!Hi, I cant quite tell from the picture but does the lump by the fin look like a ulcer?
Thank you for your help! He loves to swim through his silk plants and just stretch out or rest in his log so I'm thinking that he might have just tried to trim himself... I'll go look for some of those treatments you mentioned soon. If it is bacterial, do you have any recommended treatments? I'm not sure if I should look for a general cure again or if there's something specific.Hmm, well first I can tell you he doesn't have fin rot lol. He's been biting his fins unfortunately. Here's my thread on the differences: http://www.bettafish.com/showthread.php?t=346377
As for the bump, it's actually not a bump but more of a hole where it looks like he's losing scales. So like an indent. For what caused it though, I'm not sure, could be a bacterial infection of which you can use antibiotics for. PM LittleBlueFishlets to see if she can help this one because beyond an infection, I'm at a loss for what it might be.
I just found some KanaPlex online and I think I'll get some Garlic Guard too. Will I need to get him a new type of food? I give him pellets and a bloodworm every now and then. The KanaPlex instructions said something about frozen food paste. I don't know if I've ever seen food paste for bettas..I really like KanaPlex (Kanamycin) but it's not available in all areas, most of the time we have to order it online but of course it takes a few days to get there. You can also try Maracyn II (Erythromycin) or Tetracycline. Both of those treat gram negative and a little bit of gram positive bacteria. Most infections are caused by gram negative bacteria but there are still plenty caused by gram positive and occasionally both. Kanamycin treats for both, so it is a broad spectrum antibiotic.
Thank you! So I can just get some KanaPlex and add the dose for 10 gallons directly to his water? I should probably get rid of his carbon filter and maybe use a sponge instead, right? I was trying to think about how I wanted to treat his biting and was thinking about either getting this small piece of driftwood or this piece instead to change his tank around a bit.Yeah SeaChem makes a frozen food paste but you don't need it, that's more for ingesting the medication which is more effective but they can soak it in through their skin in the water just fine too. I just dose right to the water. GarlicGuard is great too ^_^ you can use it on the regular pellets or you can soak freeze-dried bloodworms in it although I don't suggest using FD bloodworms very often because it's like feeding chocolate to a kid all the time; sure tastes great but there's no nutritional value to it.
Thank you very much for your help! I'm waiting for a reply to my PM before I buy the medicine in case I should get something else too.Yeah just take the media out of the filter and yes, if he's in a 10 gallon then you can dose for 10 gallons (two scoops of medication from the bottle). KanaPlex will help his fins too and yeah, I'm sure he'd appreciate some driftwood
Thank you for the detailed response! I think it was around the beginning of May that I started to notice it. It wasn't there before I used the Maracyn 1 & 2 on him and I used the Maracyn for 5 days then let him off of it for a day or two and then used it for another 5 days from the end of March to the beginning of April. I'll buy the furan and sulfa. Hopefully one of them will clear him up. I'll clean out his tank while I wait for the package then try out the furan. Should I maybe give him a day without medication before trying the sulfa if the furan doesn't work? Afterwards, I'll give him some driftwood for his biting. Is there anything special that I should do for him before or after treatment with any of the medications?Hi Rurakhan,
It looks like an ulcer, or small sore, on him.
1) How long has it been there?
2) Was it there before you treated with the Maracyns?
2a) If so, did the Maracyns (especially Maracyn 2) make any difference?
2b) If it occurred afterwards, how long ago did you use the Maracyns?
Sores like this are often gram negative bacterial infections, as Lilnaugrim said.
If this was my fish, I would try the furan meds first. Brand names of these include API Furan 2, Jungle Fungus Clear, and Hikari Bifuran. The furan meds (nitrofurazone and furazolidone) are highly effective against gram negative bacterial infections.
My second choice option would be the sulfa class. Brand names include API Triple Sulfa and Mardel Maracyn PLUS (must be PLUS). But do NOT use these if you have an allergy to sulfa meds.
As for the other medications mentioned, here are my thoughts about them:
Maracyn 1 (erithromycin) - This is a gram positive antibiotic, and will not be effective on gram negative infections.
Maracyn 2 (minocycline) - This is a derivative of the tetracycline family. It's a broad spectrum antibiotic, meaning it's effective against a wide range of gram negative and gram positive bacteria. However, it's been around awhile, so some types of bacteria are now resistant to it. This is why I asked if you used it while he had the ulcer. If you did, this would indicate the bacterial resistance.
Tetracycline - Also a broad spectrum antibiotic, but if the Maracyn 2 (minocycline) was ineffective, this will likely be ineffective too.
Kanaplex (kanamycin sulfate) - As Lilnaugrim indicated, this is an excellent antibiotic. It's relatively new, therefore there is little resistance to it (so far). BUT I prefer to limit use of this since the more it's used, the more resistant bacteria will become. So I won't recommend it for a minor bacterial infection, unless other medications have been ineffective.
So if this was my fish, I would:
1) Try a furan med first. (API Furan 2, Hikari Bifuran, or Jungle Fungus Clear).
2) If the furan med didn't work, either do option (a) or (b):
a) Try a sulfa med (API Triple Sulfa or Mardel Maracyn PLUS)..... Or
b) Use Kanaplex (kanamycin sulfate)
I'll have to check the pet stores nearby before seeing if I need to order online. I don't have any live plants in his tank and he's all alone for now. Thank you again for the help! I'll post any questions about treating him or updates if I can.If you're getting them locally, then I would just get the furan now, and wait to see if I needed something else.
Or are you ordering everything online? If so, I would opt to get the furan and Kanaplex.
It sounds to me like you're ordering online, so here's what I would do:
Get the furan and Kanaplex.... Then:
1) Use the furan medication.
2) If this is not effective, or if the ulcer gets worse while using it, switch to Kanaplex.
One of the advantages of Kanaplex is that it's gentle on the body, which means you can use it right after the furan meds. (It's even possible to combine these together, if the condition is very severe.)
Since you have a filter, be sure to follow the directions on the package regarding removal of media and/or carbon.
Do you have live plants? Or is there anything else in the tank with him (snails, fish, etc?) Antibiotics can kill/damage plants and other animals. If you have these, you may want to treat him in a smaller hospital tank.