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i got my shrimp and snails! they are in a 10g quarantine, because they were in a tank with adf that i'm pretty sure had chytrid. so thats not good. so they are going to be quarantined for 3 months. i ordered a preset heater and a thermometer to monitor the temp.

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wow its been a long time since i updated and A LOT has changed! so much i don't even know where to start. i hope i don't forget anything. 2 of my shrimp died, the 2 smallest. the other 2 seem to be doing quite well. my 2 nerite snails eat algae wafers (i read this is rare). i added the duckweed and salvinia to my quarantine tank, and then removed it after about 2 weeks. its back in a plastic tub and once the shrimp/snail quarantine is over i think i'm going to try it in my main tank. the q tank has a hob filter and no matter what i did i couldn't keep the plants away from the out take and it was just constantly making a mess and clogging the filter. my snails started mating and leaving eggs everywhere, but i don't really mind. my frogs also started mating but i haven't seen any eggs or tadpoles. i'm honestly not 100% sure on the frogs sex. one of them has arm pit bumps that seem to disappear and reappear randomly. but from the lack of eggs i'm thinking its a boy. and 2 nights ago i heard my frogs singing for the first time! scared the crap out of me because at first i didn't recognize the sound and couldn't figure out what it was.

i really do enjoy my shrimp, but i'm not sure if i'm going to replace them when they die. i have to travel quite a distance to get them and yeah. i think when they die, i'm going to buy 1 more ADF and keep it in the quarantine tank until it can be added to the main tank. but also after quarantine i have been debating getting a couple frogs for in there doing the 3 month quarantine and then adding the other 3 frogs in there and having an adf only tank. or possibly doing a shrimp only tank, but i would have to order the shrimp online which i am not too fond of that idea. but idk i still have like a month and a half of quarantine left and even after i don't have to make a decision right away. a HUGE draw back for me though is i have no where to put a second tank in my room except on the floor which makes water changes a pain. i haven't asked yet but i'm hoping my mom will let me move the tank to the kitchen counter (literally the only other place it could go) but i'm pretty sure shes not going to be ok with that. so idk. i have a bunch of pictures i've been saving for here so without further ado

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i haven't updated again but for once i've got a good reason. i went through some bad health stuff and then my mom got diagnosed with cancer and had surgery. the only major tank changes are the shrimp and snails were added to my main tank and one shrimp died. oh also i got some live plants! they are betta bulbs. they seem to be doing well.

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I got 3 new frogs! They came from petsmart. I'll provide more info maybe tomorrow, I'm quite tired now and have a mild migraine.








The last pic is of earl. He was being cute.
 

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Well it's an early Sunday evening. It's a beautiful day, spent some time outside and now I'm relaxing in bed watching bgc Chicago so I figured I'd provide an update and the rest of the pictures I took. Idk where to start... I had wanted more frogs for a while so I planned a day to go to the pet store but I ended up getting a migraine that day and didn't go. Waited a week or so and planned a day again and I called pet supplies plus the night before and they were out of stock. So I waited a week again and called the night before and bloodworms and adf were in stock. So the next afternoon I went and they were out of both! And while talking to the employee she said "the frog kept going after (her) guppy and trying to attack it" so I'm going to guess it was actually an acf..

So I waited a a couple days or a week and went to petsmart. They had bloodworms and adf! But I had to sign some paper saying I understand the health risks of owning frogs... Um what? I just signed it. The lady got 2 frogs in the thing and got the third in the net and he jumped out and splatted flat on his back flipped himself over and started hopping around! I just kinda stood there and went "ummmmm maybe not that one" lol so she got me another and he jumped out too! But only fell about 3 inches so I still took that one. But I feel bad cause there was only 2 other frogs left and the one that fell is probably going to die leaving that one by it self.

I didn't have anything setup at home so I had to rush a bit but it ended up being fine. They are in my heated filtered 10g tank. I was able to seed filter media plus decor and I took gravel from my main tank. So I'm sure the cycle is going good. I'm able to tell these 3 new frogs apart really well. I think one is a blonde! It has super light skin and very light eyes, one has dark skin and light eyes and the last has dark skin and dark eyes. I have 3 names picked out, Heimlich, Val and Lilypad but idk what name I want to o what frog yet.

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And from my old tank here's earl, Charlie and flick and dot

 

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I've got a migraine again and have generally felt like crap all day. Actually I didn't even get out of bed (fully laying down in the dark under the blanket) at all today except to make dinner. Which is VERY out of character for me. Which is killing me because I'm dying to watch my babies but I just can't bear (is that the tight bear?) to have the light on... I did verify they were all alive this morning though and had a bit of a boo boo... Yesterday was my first day feeding 2x which is what I did with my current adults when they were babies and everything was fine. Well I did the second feeding yesterday and Val was really floaty and the hey all had big round bellies. Didn't think much about it until later I read that means over feeding. Well this morning rolled around and I debated whether to feed them or not and ending up choosing to feed. Until I put the bloodworms in the water and they all started coming out with huge huge bellies. Val tried to eat one worm and spit it out and was still all floaty so I immediately removed the worms. Might skip tomorrow's feeding too, but whenever I do start feeds again it will definitely only be once a day...





The above pics are Val (in the food dish) and Lilypad in the betta pyramid. The. Next pic is Bev from the main tank
 

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Well we've had quite an ordeal... The same day as my last post in the morning I noticed Lilypads mouth was hanging open which I thought was weird but didn't think too much about it. The next day it was still like that


So that's when I started to become concerned. I started googling and couldn't find anything. Russell (on here) was even looking. Around 1pm or so I checked again and his mouth looked weird so I got a flashlight and looked and a piece of gravel was hanging out half way!! I spent some time googling what yo do and after not really finding anything I decided to wing it. My plan was to catch him and try to pull the gravel out with tweezers. I hyped myself up and that's when I saw he has spit the gravel out on his own! I spent the rest of the day researching different types of sand price places to buy ect. I decided on pool filter sand. I pent this morning calling different places trying to find it and removing the tiny gravel from the qtank. I'm going to try to get some pool filter sand tomorrow from a pool store in the next town. If I can't I guess I'll go with play sand or black blasting sand. Not sure which. Kinda bummed though I loved how my main tank looks with tiny gravel.





And this is Bev I'm pretty sure. It's either Ed or Bev.

 

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Wow I haven't updated this in forever. 2016 has been quite the year for me. I was actually looking through this trying to find the name of my second filter, no luck yet. But I realized my tank has gone through so many changes. On May second Greyson (the cockatiel pictured earlier in the thread) randomly died, a week later bev died of dropsy, a week after that kitty was put to sleep (cancer, probably lymphoma), I think heimlich died next (random, no signs of disease) sometime in July, Charlie died on the 4th of July weekend of columnaris, Oh my cousin died in June, I got a new betta hank in late July and he died in like sept or oct. Lily pad died in August of dropsy, in sept a friend died and Val got sucked into the filter and died, still not sure if he was dead and got sucked in or died because he got sucked in. Oh a very close family friend died in August. About 2 weeks ago I found Earl dead inside the outtake of the filter, no idea how he even got in there since he would have had to leave the water, climb up the side of the filter, over the panty hose and then climb down inside the filter. Oh Earl has also had a chest tumor for most of the year but it didn't seem to effect him. While all this was happening I had bad health stuff going on too. And yesterday my filter died. So I'm using my HOB which I don't like that much but it's fine I guess. So the only frog I have left is ed and he seems to be floating more lately. And I got a new betta he looks like a mustard gas kind of but he's not. His name is William Fontaine dela tour Dauterive.
 

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Am so sorry you've had such a tough year! I imagine you'll be glad when 2016 in is in the books. I'm sure 2017 will be a better one for you.

I have missed you and have thought often of touching base to see how you were doing but you know how that goes...the best laid intentions. :-(
 

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Am so sorry you've had such a tough year! I imagine you'll be glad when 2016 in is in the books. I'm sure 2017 will be a better one for you.

I have missed you and have thought often of touching base to see how you were doing but you know how that goes...the best laid intentions. :-(


This year is shaping up to be like 2016, I currently have 2 infections (I've been sick for almost 2 weeks) and am on antibiotics. I have missed you and the forum as welll!
 

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Bill died in oct. I got a new Betta the same weekend. His name is Bobby, I'm pretty sure he's a delta tail iirc. At the beginning of dec I took out all my silk plants and put in 3 java ferns (Malaysia red, large tropica fern, and narrow leaf java fern) and 1 rosette sword and wisteria. I also added 3 Betta bulbs but I think the bulbs are a dud. I'm thinking of getting some shrimp and switching to a sponge filter. I also "upgraded" my lighting to the coralife 50/50 but recently found out that's not an upgrade it's basically the same as the 15 watt I was using. I'm going to switch to a zoomed 6500k light. I also added 2 air stones. I'm currently battling brown algae and I don't know why.

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Bobby the day I got him oct 13
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My tank on dec 12 before I added the live plants
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Bobby's colors are changing a bit again (I can't for the life of me remember what that's called when bettas change colors) but I don't have pics yet. He's getting more red. I laughed so hard and cringed a bit tbh reading through this journal talking about how "natural" my past tank looked GIRL nothing about that looked natural lol.



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Bobby died yesterday and flick the nerite snail died in August or sept. My tank has gone through many changes. Right now it's dirt with blasting sand cap, salvinia minima, the rosette sword that's not doing well (the baby died, a ton of jungle Val is reproducing like crazy, dying java moss that I glued to my drift wood I'm probably going to rip it all off, one single dwarf sag, and 2 little Monte Carlo. I changed the light from half blue to all white. I ordered plants last night from Dustin's fishtanks. Wisteria, dwarf sag, and something I don't remember and never heard of but looked pretty. Not sure what I'm going to do as far as livestock...


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Before and after. Don't really like how the after is looking. Not sure what I'm going to do. Thinking about getting a 20gL on the dollar per gallon sale. Not sure.


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I like the contrast of the different foliage types.
And I have found that dwarf sag fills in nice and quick.

You may find that reading up on the golden ratio helps with tank design.
I found it makes a huge difference.
https://www.thegreenmachineonline.com/blog/aquatic-layout-guide-rules-composition-the-golden-ratio-creating-perspectiv/
Or
https://www.aquasabi.com/aquascaping-wiki_aquascaping_aquascaping-with-the-golden-ratio

People can take it to obsessive extremes (I’m not quite that bad... yet) but it is fascinating to see what a difference it can make to move a plant or a rock just a few inches.

I just find it easier to go by a few rules, rather than struggle starting from scratch by myself.
 
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