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Does a normal Halfmoon Betta have as much problems as the rose tails since we really admire these beautiful fish, but wouldn’t like to see it struggle. We are kind of torn apart about getting a Betta with big fins.
Is there also a type that has a similar silky movement that still is quite natural for him?
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Halfmoons swim really easily, you can totally get one and not feel guilty. Rose tails are the controversial ones and also breeding diffrent tails without a clear goal in mind and people will get alot of deformed tails.

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I have two half moon mustard gas one of which is a rose tail. Neither one has any problem swimming. Now I'm not sure what the future will bring but I know they are healthy and happy in their tanks. I have one VT that has no problem with his long fins and to make sure he stays that way he gets exercise by having his filter not defused. He swims against the current and enjoys riding from one side of the tank to the other. He chases his tank mate (a male guppy named Gilford). He doesn't hurt Gilford and they seem like best of buddies. Gilford is much faster than Morry so it all evens out. But his long fins don't seem to bother him.

I have seen some beautiful betta on line being sold and watch the videos that are posted of them I have seen some amazing finnage and would love to have those fish. However I also look to see if there might be problems in their swimming and stay in touch with the people who buy them. I have only found a few that have had problems. This is only because of the breeding and body type being messed up and breeding in problems. So My best advice is when You are looking for your betta look at every one of them and take notice to their swimming, their body style ( are there any deformities in the body that may cause problems down the road.) I have found that the betta sold in Petco and PetSmart do come from quality breeders of pet stock fish and I have never had a problem with this type of stock. I have had some slight problems with breeders that are breeding for more than pet stock.
 

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Thank you:)
Now we are more comfortable buying one.
We just thought that a fish should be able to swim without any struggle, thats Kind of the purpose of a fish^^
We would definitely watch different fish closely before buying one to check for deformations or the swimming style of the Bettas:)
Maybe Go directly to a serious breeder.
Thanks for the help:)
 

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I would always recommend a good breeder that has the interest of the species at heart. Don't get taken in by first time breeders that don't know the family genes and can not breed pure. If you do go to a breeder find out more about them. What are they breeding for? (tail, body, What do they have in mind when they breed.) Not some one who has bread a nice looking fish with another and hope for the best. This is where the species break down and the genes are messed up in the breed.

Do not breed pet stock if you don't know the background of what you are breeding.
 

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Yes you are right. I will ask him for more Details about his focus etc.
Personally i would prefer meeting the breeder and not buying Fish online so I can also see the whole area, the tanks and the water quality.
I think there i something wrong with the pictures. It says: broken Images or am I missing something?
 

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Is this in reference to my last post??? about pet stock I have found at petsmart?

I now have 5 betta and all but one was bought at Petsmart or Petco. The only one I have from a breeder is my Blue and yellow mustard gas. I was told by a friend from Pittsburgh PA to come down and see him. We went to a wholesale breeder for large box stores. He doesn't sell to private buyers but he does sell to friends. So I went to see him and found Blue. Along with so many different tail types and body shapes. He had thousands of bowls that were being readied to ship all over the world. It was an amazing experience. I was looking for a HM Mustard gas and he had hundreds. I love his place.

If when I get my basement fish room done and I have all my tanks set up and ready for more betta you bet I'm going to go back to see him and I know he will have anything I want.
I don't know where you live but if you send a pm to me I might be able to find you a great breeder in your area or very close by.
 

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Regarding the breeder, since you have the experience, what are the criteria that we have to Look out for?
 

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General criteria that I look for is in the stock they have and breed. I just don't look at their pictures and say well they have good looking fish. I look at their shipping information and their policies on dead loss. I ask the breeder how they ship and how the fish are packed. I also ask if the fish they are breeding to have been cross bread and what lines they have bread to. Then I look at their stock and make a choice in how they were bread. and the ages they are when they are sold.

My breeder local to me has been breeding for large box stores all over the states and Canada. I have been introduced to him by a friend and fellow keeper. He does not sell to the public and only sells in quantity that box stores or larger pet stores will purchase. I got very lucky to find him and become friends and his stock is amazing and their lines are pure.
 

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A little late to the party but was on vacation and didn't take my laptop; phone only. A real PITA for posting.

Make sure you understand the difference between an importer and a breeder. I see so many on this Forum and FB using the terms interchangeably. An importer gets his or her Betta at anywhere from 3-6 months old and doesn't know parents whereas a breeder knows the parents and usually sells at four months.

I buy from two people: One is an importer on FB and another both imports and breeds. Each has lovely, healthy Betta.

The importer bred Betta for years but no longer has the enormous amount of time it takes to do it right; so he imports from Thailand and Vietnam. He knows his breeders.

If you don't intend to breed then pet store Betta are perfectly acceptable. Before I stopped going to pet stores in toto I saw a lot of lovely Betta in pet stores I would have been proud to own. So do not hesitate to buy one....or two....or three ;-)

As far as swimming, almost all of my long-fins are exaggerated and haven't had one with a swimming problem. But I go against the "Betta don't like current" belief and use adjustable HOB filters. I increase the filter output as the Betta gains strength and can hold up those fins.

However, inability swim well does happen no matter what the owner attempts to help. And purchasing a young Betta with "normal" finnage doesn't mean its fins won't continue to grow until they become incredibly heavy.
 
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