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Wow! At what point do ppl 4get that "Tropical" fish means they come from much warmer climates, and require warm water to live?? The tropics are warm, hence warm water!! Whether freshwater, or marine species.... makes no difference if the water is 2 cold 4 survival!!
 

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Wow, I'm pretty sure my chicken is smarter than these people, and let me tell you. One of them was stupid enough to get its head stuck in the fence between their area and the space the dogs (a hyper active black 125 lbs dog with jaws that turn full logs to wood chips in minutes) were. It escaped with its head, barley
 

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I'm pretty sure the snake will be fine... I do find it odd that big box pet stores sell snakes... but no 'feeder' mice, only pets. Seems a little irresponsible, or just willfully ignorant. There's a point where the snake's gonna need live food... don't sell it if you're not willing to own that fact. Idk.
We carry "fancy mice" that double as feeding mice. Most of our mice go as feeders for snakes. Our supplier is a pain in the neck to deal with though, so there are a week or two where we are out of them, but we are always stocked of frozen mice/rats. I think a lot of these snake owners got their snakes from the small pet store guy from the next town over who shut down last summer. All his costumers have come flocking to us, increasing demand that we are trying to keep up with now that we are the only pet store within a 2hr drive. We don't regularly carry snakes, only order them when people make a special order, which is extremely rare.
 

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Hey thanks for the reply Sathori!!
All I know of snakes and the purchasing of their food, I know for a friend who has a little ball python... She has a stack of 'How to care for your new pet mouse!!' pamphlets, from the store that sold her the snake. Every time she goes in, the employees guilt her about feeding live food, they're supposed to be pets, aw look how cute... You get the idea. It seems real irresponsible to me!!
Obv, if a store sells no snakes, then of course they're not obligated to sell feeders!!!
 

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Helped a couple that had bought a 21 liter tank (our most popular seller) & had it running for a week. They wanted to get a comet and a fantail.

I ended up talking them down to just the single fantail but i made it VERY VERY clear that they would have to upgrade or the fish will have a short life and eventually die, whatever comes first.

Usually i tell customers that the fish "stunt" which means they stop growing physically but their organs continue to grow, weather or not that's true, it certainly makes them look at fish differently since it sounds so bad :p
 

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This. Is. So. Frustrating.

Really aquaone? A tiny tiny bowl, no filter or anything and you say its suitable for 'small goldfish' its horrible how a major company can get away with such stupid 'advice' and we wonder why customers believe what they are doing is ok when big brands are telling them the totally wrong thing.
 

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Hey thanks for the reply Sathori!!
All I know of snakes and the purchasing of their food, I know for a friend who has a little ball python... She has a stack of 'How to care for your new pet mouse!!' pamphlets, from the store that sold her the snake. Every time she goes in, the employees guilt her about feeding live food, they're supposed to be pets, aw look how cute... You get the idea. It seems real irresponsible to me!!
Obv, if a store sells no snakes, then of course they're not obligated to sell feeders!!!
I don't guilt trip snake owners when feeding live mice, but when they have a snake that will eventually need rats, I do encourage trying to switch to frozen prey, simply because rats can be more aggressive and can harm the snake. Plus we don't have the room for multiple live, large adult rats in our store. We do have a number who feed frozen, some customers have snakes that refuse to eat frozen, then there's some guys who feed live because "it's more entertaining". I get the snake needs to eat, like every other animal, but when you feed live because you think it's more fun than frozen, that's when I get frustrated. Fancy mice make better pets than hamsters - far less aggressive. I always encourage feeding frozen prey if you can, but I understand some snakes refuse to.

That's my rant for the day lol I love all animals, big and small. I wish that all pet owners (whether it be fish, dogs, rodents, reptiles, cats, etc) would actually do the research into the animal they chose to bring into their home rather than blindly rely on what some unknowledgeable store employee tells them.
 

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That's the issue my friend has, her snake will just snuggle the frozen ones. Feeding something for entertainment is pretty sick, esp with something as aware as a rodent, but I'm sure it's better for the snake, more instinctive etc. Or at least it would make sense if it was better.
 

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I went to the pet store to get another betta and was looking at them when an employee walked up.
E: can I help you with anything?
Me: no thanks I'm just picking out a betta
E: well can I help you with a tank? (Picks up one of those horrid things that holds like two drops of water)
Me: no thanks I have a six gallon all ready at home.
E: what?! That's way too big! The poor betta would be miserable in something that big, they need something small so they don't get stressed, in nature they live in puddles you know.
Me: actually those puddles are serval gallons and they also live in streams.
E: I just don't think you should get a betta until you know more about them
Me: (trying to keep my calm but about two seconds from blowing up) can I talk to your manager please?
So he goes and gets him and I tell him what's going on and in the nicest way he basically tells the employee that what a complete moron he is and maybe he would be better stocking shelves and that he has a betta at home and he's very happy in a ten gallon tank and not stressed at all. I was really aggravated and none of the bettas were screaming pick me so I decided to wait until another day to get one. The manager was really nice and kept apologizing for the employee, I think he could tell how mad I was.
 

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These are some of the craziest stories I've ever heard!! I would be horrified if this happened to me, although it kind of did....
My Story:

Me: *walks over to look at walmarts fish*

E: *girl about 18ish walks up* Hello! Would you like to buy some fish today?
Me: No thanks, I'm just looking.

E: Oh, well you should get one of these little sucker thingies for your tank. *points at pleco* I have one in one of my little tanks.

Me: *trying not to laugh* No thanks, I was actually thinking of maybe getting some cories.

E: *Looks at me like I'm speaking jibberish*

Me: *Walks away like nothing ever happened*

It might not be as crazy as some of these stories, but I thought it was quite funny the way she looked at me when I mentioned cories! :lol:
 

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I was in Walmart last nite... On a whim, I decided 2 walk past their live fish. I noticed that several fish, of every species they carry, were sick (some ick, some dropsy, some SBD, some fin rot, some clamped fins, some just plain dead & stuck 2 filter intake & not just 1 or 2... numerous fish were plastered 2 them in nearly EVERY tank!!) Now, being the aquarium enthusiast that I am, I took it upon myself to find someone working in the dept, & address the problem. I informed the man that he needs to quarantine the entire tank system and treat each tank w/ aqua salts, fungi clear, ick guard & the blue antibiotic drops. Here is what ensued:

Me: excuse me sir, but I need to talk to you about some fish. You have a large number of sick and/or dead fish.

E: they are all sick

Me: ok, so quarantine & don't sell any more until they are healthy

E: They are only fish, who cares

Me: (pointing out an albino oscar that was swimming vertically) look at this oscar....
Does he look normal to you? (If eyes could kill, I'd be dead, lol) This fish very obviously has SBD. Look at the goldfish... You have several dead or dying fish literally stuck to the filter! This is not right. They need immediate treatment sir!

E: The department manager will be here Monday. He'll take care of it then.

Me: Monday? These fish need 2 be taken off sale, and given medicine now! Many of them will die this weekend if the problems aren't addressed now! You can't keep selling diseased fish.... It looks bad on your store!

E: I really don't care if they live. Not my problem. If u don't like it, take it up with the store manager.

Me: ok, then page him

E: (rolling his eyes) I'll have him paged (then walked off)

They did page the manager, but 15min later I still hadn't seen him.... I finally gave up & decided to leave, feeling I'd lost the battle. It irks me how unconcerned the man was about the entire stock in their live tanks. They have no business selling fish if all they want to do is feed them, never addressing the health of the poor creatures! As for their employee being so nonchalant and refusing to address the problem? Shame on him! Yes, they are "only fish", but they are living, breathing animals. They didn't ask to be shipped to walmart, and certainly don't deserve to be treated the same as a car battery, a t-shirt, or a roll of duct tape! WTF?!?!
 

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My LFS does sell the "black-light" tetras.... What kills me is that customers and employees both seem 2 think they are that way naturally!! U remember the painted glass fish that were really popular a few yrs ago? Well, for those of u who didn't know, the color fades after a while. My eldest son got 3 (a blue, a green & an orange) for his birthday when he turned 7... In about 4 mo, they were plain old glass fish. He was sooooo mad, and swore we got rid of his colorful fish (or killed them), and replaced them with "stupid invisible fish with eyes". I felt so bad that I had 2 tell him they had been injected with dye & were really just clear fish. U wouldn't think that it would b so difficult to explain, but it was. To this day, I won't even look at those poor fishies, when I'm browsing their stock. I think it's cruel 2 "enhance" the fish with dye anyway!
A lot of the GloFish sold today aren't injected. They are born that way from genetic modification. It's not natural but I've always been under the impression that they don't dye or inject them anymore...
 

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Some do, some don't. I guess it just depends on the store.

So I went to PetCo a few days ago, and they were selling bamboo shrimp, lobsters(?), and telling people a 5-10g would be perfect.
 

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Some do, some don't. I guess it just depends on the store.

So I went to PetCo a few days ago, and they were selling bamboo shrimp, lobsters(?), and telling people a 5-10g would be perfect.
Yeah, maybe it is. If you're only keeping the lobster in it until you cook him.

The place I go to is really good, except for the info sheet that says bettas like water between 20-30 degrees celcius. The problem being the 20. For those who don't know celcius, room temp is roughly 25.
Also there's a LFS I go past on my train. Their walls declare "fish are easy!" and I don't think that's quite right.
 

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A lot of the GloFish sold today aren't injected. They are born that way from genetic modification. It's not natural but I've always been under the impression that they don't dye or inject them anymore...
You are correct! Glofish aren't and never were injected. They were originally genetically modified at the egg stage to carry the dna color gene from either coral or jellyfish ( I'm not very scientific so pls. pardon the oversimplification...:oops: ). The fish sold today are all reproducing naturally with these colors. The colors don't change throughout their life.

The "mixed" fruit pastel colored tetras I believe are and were dyed in various ways . The only place I've personally seen these still being sold in my area is.... Walmart...(no big surprise.sigh)
 

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Ohoho my experience has also been quite silly.

This lady and her child were looking at a few betta fishes and I was there first trying to look at some betta fishes. The lady was saying how pretty they were and that she wanted the bold blue and red veiltail. I, then, started to speak with her about some information for betta fishes until:

Petsmart employee: "Hi ma'am do you need any help?"
Me thinks : "Wow rude.. But hes trying to do his job"
The lady: "Oh, uh, I was looking in buying betta fishes"
Petsmart employee: " Well there are different types of bettas. Lets see here.. Here are some crowntails and oh, veiltails. Over here is a female and male. Apparently males are bought more than females and I don't know why females are not as beautiful as males."

I was walking away and when I heard that i cringed...
 

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And the ridiculous convos are not just about fish. I see people buying reptiles, or mice, or birds, and the employees send them off with a small critter keeper, small thing of food, pine shavings, and a water bottle.......
 

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Today I had a customer tell me that his brother put in a young piranha, no more than 1.5" long, in a tank with a few 1 foot goldfish.... Surprise surprise when the goldfish ATE the poor piranha....
 

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Poor goldfish and piranha.
I personaly have two goldfish, one comet and one shubunkin who ended up being best friends and love all the space of their 50 gallon.
I used to have my comet in a bowl (I didn't know any better back then) and wanted to get another one, luckily the girl working there was somewhat knoladgable and told me "we don't recommend having any goldfish in a bowl" unfortunetly she forgot to mention how much room long bodied goldfish really need.
Its weird and sad how places like petco and petsmart hire a lot people who now nothing about they what there selling, and there selling living animals, regardless of size or species.
 
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