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I will fill out the form in the morning.
It's late as all get out again.

I got Akio about 5 days ago, from PetSmart.
I have a few questions and concerns, and was lead to join this site after extensive reading on different forums. Here's what's happening:

Symptoms: white fluffy balls on fins, mouth, tail etc.
Lethargy, refusal of food, side swimming on occasion.

I have a 3.5 gallon tank with a heater and tetra 3i whisper filter. Before I could get this setup, he was in a gallon jar with no issues. I initially purchased the Top Fin Aquascene 180° view tank for its size and what I could afford at the time.

Problems with tank:
-filter current WAY to strong and no logical way to buffer/baffle flow
-no heater included

I ran out and bought the tetra 3i filter this morning and a heater after noticing signs of distress. Overnight it seemed as if he'd gone from bright and active/curious to half rotted fins and on the brink of crossing the rainbow current to fishy heaven. After reading till 6am on what to do to take care of him, I'm still concerned and uneasy about his health.

Had water tested today and other than slight water hardness and slightly hig ammonia nothing is very out of the ordinary. I grabbed some bettafix and StressCoat while out. I'm guessing ammonia built up overnight due to shutting off the turbulent filter. I didn't want to wake up to a dead fish, though I suppose it could have happened either way. Luckily he made it through that night.
New filter, heater, StressCoat, bettafix, and acclimating over an hour time span seemed to help a little, but I'm afraid I'm battling columnaris? And not fin rot as I initially presumed. He's got little white balls of white fluff/goo halfway up his fins and tail.

I asked the presumably "educated" employees at PetSmart about salt and other fixes and they said StressCoat and bettafix should be fine. I did a 30% water change before adding Bfix and StressCoat. One employee tried to suggest that a filter is not needed with betta, but after all my reading of different threads over the last few days, I'm convinced she's full of it, and I should have told her so.
I'm feeding pellets, and removing uneaten pieces (which last few days has been all food.) He seems to have maybe perked up a bit since his first treatment but after reviews about bettafix and its harmful effects, as well as reading about its false claims to actually cure ailments, I'm very weary about using it again. He did appear to flare a bit instead of just clamped fins. Im curious about salt baths and methylene blue. I've also read kanamycin and permanganate? To treat in extreme cases. It seems to have blown up out of nowhere. His fin tips are black, one fell off. I'm hoping I didn't do something to harm my fish, but also hoping he wasn't treated poorly before his purchase and is just now showing signs of an illness. Please help.

There is a tropical fish store about 20 miles away, I'm considering going and speaking to owner about treatments and possibly taking Akio to be examined for recommended care.


Thank you,
A weary new betta mom
 

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Too late

Unfortunately he died last night while I was sleeping. I'm going to change the water, clean tank, refill, and let it run for a while before getting another. Will get water tested again before new fish, after cleaning.
 

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It sounds like he may have had some sort of fungus, although I'm not 100 percent sure without photos. I'm sorry to hear he passed. Sometimes they come from the store ill unfortunately.
 

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I'm sure he was sick when I got him. I'm no longer going to petsmart. A Fishie Anado about 20 miles away is strictly tropical fish, and much more knowledgeable
 

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I have sworn off Petsmart after having all my fish from them be ill upon buying and having the employees give me information I know to be absolutely false. Their aquatic specialists really aren't aquatic specialists, at least not the ones in my stores. I went in for internal parasite medication once, thinking they'd at least know what I'm talking about. They tried selling me Ich Remedy and Bettafix. They also told me betta's don't live longer than a few months even when healthy. Rubbish, I ended up filing a corporate complaint with my location.

Anywho, I am so sorry for your loss. It is my firm belief they should be responsible for the health and well being of all their animals, including fish; before being allowed to sell them to the public. I do agree, it sounded like he had a fungus problem. SIP <3
 

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I'm 99% sure that he had columnaris. I can't remember which thread I was reading, but he had little white slimy balls halfway up fins, white on mouth, decaying fins at ends. I had to correct employees at PetSmart and it made me furious. They have 18 yr old kids as "fish specialists." The cashier tried to convince me a filter was not needed. I returned the bettafix I bought after further research and claims about damage to labyrinth organ turned up. Someone else attempted to tell me distilled water was ok, and that salts were more for cichlids..... I'm very disappointed at their knowledge and service. Will be filing a complaint with them tomorrow. If I could I would rescue al the betas in terrible condition on their shelves.
 

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I absolutely am. I have the day off tomorrow and will be cleaning tank, rocks, filter, and discarding plants. How can I make sure my heater is disinfected? Going to speak with owner at A Fishie Anado tropical fish store tomorrow about everything I need to do to get a healthy tank up and running for a healthy new fish.
 

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How big is the tank? I have a five gallon and used a couple drops peroxide and soaked it with a lot of aquarium salt then rinsed really, really well.
 

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I'm 99% sure that he had columnaris. I can't remember which thread I was reading, but he had little white slimy balls halfway up fins, white on mouth, decaying fins at ends. I had to correct employees at PetSmart and it made me furious. They have 18 yr old kids as "fish specialists." The cashier tried to convince me a filter was not needed. I returned the bettafix I bought after further research and claims about damage to labyrinth organ turned up. Someone else attempted to tell me distilled water was ok, and that salts were more for cichlids..... I'm very disappointed at their knowledge and service. Will be filing a complaint with them tomorrow. If I could I would rescue al the betas in terrible condition on their shelves.
Good for you :) they will never do anything about it if people don't speak up. It's sad but that type of store will always have specialists that aren't really specialists, I've been to one Petco that had a fish person that seemed like she knew what she was talking about. Any fish person should know you need a filter, if they claim otherwise they aren't a fish person. I'm still dealing with my stores issues I had to deal with. The manager has been trying to tell me betta fish are not meant to live long lives, and I keep fighting him on it.

I don't expect people to know everything, but if you're going to working in a department as a specialist of anything you better know a good deal about what you're supposed to be specialized in.

Hopefully you have better luck with your next fishy friend!
 

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Good for you :) they will never do anything about it if people don't speak up. It's sad but that type of store will always have specialists that aren't really specialists, I've been to one Petco that had a fish person that seemed like she knew what she was talking about. Any fish person should know you need a filter, if they claim otherwise they aren't a fish person. I'm still dealing with my stores issues I had to deal with. The manager has been trying to tell me betta fish are not meant to live long lives, and I keep fighting him on it.

I don't expect people to know everything, but if you're going to working in a department as a specialist of anything you better know a good deal about what you're supposed to be specialized in.

Hopefully you have better luck with your next fishy friend!
Thank you, I'm not giving up on this betta momma endeavor. They're beautiful and have so much personality.
 

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I'd do one, maybe two, drops of peroxide and let it sit with two tablespoons of aquarium salt then rinse really well. For the moss ball, I think you can do the same. I soak my live plants in a diluted peroxide solution.
 

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Good for you :) they will never do anything about it if people don't speak up. It's sad but that type of store will always have specialists that aren't really specialists, I've been to one Petco that had a fish person that seemed like she knew what she was talking about. Any fish person should know you need a filter, if they claim otherwise they aren't a fish person. I'm still dealing with my stores issues I had to deal with. The manager has been trying to tell me betta fish are not meant to live long lives, and I keep fighting him on it.

I don't expect people to know everything, but if you're going to working in a department as a specialist of anything you better know a good deal about what you're supposed to be specialized in.

Hopefully you have better luck with your next fishy friend!
I'd like to introduce you to my new pretty boy, Floki!
 

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He is lovely. I saw a crowntail similar to this at Petco last week and it took all of my will power to not buy him. I almost turned around and grabbed him about 7 times.

Crowntails are my favorite, the red and iridescent body is such a nice combo.
 
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