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So, I'd love to breed Savannah, my big blue gal :) NOTE: she is NOT from this store that gets wholesale bettas. Only problem with her... she is aggressive. Flared right back at my male Dally who sawm away in terror :lol: I'm not breeding him, btw. Plus she'd be the man in THAT relationship xDD And yes she IS a female :) She displays no stress nor submission signs when she flared at Dally, or at Juniper (butterfly-carrier) o_o

So... How would I breed her then? I'm used to "okay I submit right away" females, who don't fight back, and definitely do not flare back!!! :shock: any tips? I'm conditioning her and my male of choice for summer-ish time :) Any warnings? I'm using a 10 with live plants, and a sponge filter for spawning. 6 inches of water, heated to a lovely 80-82 :)
 

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Aggressive females spawn more easily than submissive females.
 

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Huh. Madame was semi-aggressive. aggressive to everything (murdered my apple snail!!), including other females and she DID spawn great, fast, quick, and easy. she flared when she was telling him "oh gimme a break!" :lol: Marge was a second try, and she wouldn't breed. maybe too submissive? she ate his tail in the night though :|

I have another girl now! Purple, and once she is in clean water I will say what kind (VT or comb). And two males.... a soft pale yellow boy, and an awesome red boy who is fiesty! just how I like 'em ;-) I'll condition both gals, and both males. otherwise I'd resort to Shiloh! xD and he's gotta be 2.5 now, so I don't want to. but he is very aggressive ;-)
 

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I agree
 

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But Sena, you shouldn't be breeding if you can't figure out what's wrong with your adult fish.
 

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Which ones? El Dorado was old for the fact of the store he came from plus he always had a weak immune system, Ghengis is just constipated, females are over their columnaris (took yahooanswers to find that answer, for the fact it showed as "fin rot"), Ditsy had ich and a weak immune system from the petsmart place in edmonton, and I'm breeding in summer not now :). I found out what's wrong with everyone and we're successful right now with treatments. the new guy Red, was shipped today so it doesn't surprise me he needs a lil' epsom salt for his bloat. :) And that's about it.
 

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I'm afraid I have to agree with MrV. It seems you are still losing bettas left and right, and that leads me to suspect something is probably wrong with your water supply. You have lost many, many fish in a short period of time - no matter what you think was wrong with them, it is not normal to have such a huge rash of deaths in a short period of time.

For example, I recently lost a huge amount of bettas (around 10) in a matter of 2 weeks. Come to find out there was a busted water line up my street. The water was coming out BROWN. The pH was off the charts, and I shudder to thing what other nasties were swimming around in that water. This is the third time this has happened to me in my 14 years of keeping fish. I have switched to using R/O water for my bettas full time, and now they are as healthy as can be.

If I were you I would start looking at your water supply, or your water change schedule, or even your stock of fish. In my personal experience imports are way more fragile than domestic bettas. MrV can attest to that as well, and he's been breeding and importing longer than I have.
 

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I've been getting city bettas, and haven't had a problem with them. actually, I'm thinking it's the tap UPSTAIRS, because the only one who has never had a problem is my boy Jekyll downstairs. any fish I had downstairs never had a problem... I moved Conan upstairs, water change like usual... he died! no reason for it. no signs, no ammonia burns... grrr >< So I'm actually suspecting the tap itself, which is very possible it could be leaching something. I would move everyone back downstairs if it comes to it. I do have a spare room. I've noticed only sickness, in ones upstairs :/

also, can you give me a site for UV sterilizer and...the...ugh Im tired, whatever the other thing is called x.x my mind refuses to work this morning.... D:


and nice to see you cajunamy o_O

and again, it's going to be for summer. it's almost April now, I have a good few months before I decide to do it anyways. :)
 

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Some thoughts....copper? phosphate? I don't think calcium build up is harmful but mind as well say it xD I'll be looking it up, but I'd like to test it.... if I could.

Oh, a side note... the water is from the same source as my last place, and as my parent's place, both of which I had long living healthy bettas, and healthy fish! :) so if it's the water source it's peculiar.. Spartan lived downstairs and he lived well for his life with a tumor.
 

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Ahhh screw what it is =D Guess what? I did a water change for Juniper, Ghengis and Red, with water from downstairs.... Juniper is putting on a show and is more active, Ghengis is more active and colorful, and Red is more active. It's gotta be the tap.... I haven't seen this behavior in them since they were moved upstairs. So whatever is in THAT tap, I don't like it.

So, I am getting the aquavac to get water from downstairs to upstairs on the 7th, right now it's a bucket at a time.... :lol: -preoccupied with watching Juniper- He's also got the two stripes on his cheaks I haven't seen since I bred last....
 

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Water is the same all over the house. Id still go with R/O water to be safe.
 

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Yeah, I don't understand how it could be upstairs and not downstairs Sena. Plumbing would be the same, water source is the same. Some fish can live through nasties in the water better, some can't. Tank size will also be a factor - my big tanks don't have a problem with the tap. BUT I have live plants in one and the other is an oscar in a huge 55 all to himself.

R/O filter. Reverse Osmosis. You shouldn't need a UV sterilizer with a r/o filter. And they are very expensive. $150+. And a UV sterilizer, as far as I know, won't affect anything coming out of the tap except for bacteria/fungus. Not phosphates, calcium, copper, whathaveyou.

And what exactly does 'and nice to see you cajunamy o_O' mean? Seems like a sarcastic comment, but then this is the internet and meaning does not come across well.
 

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No, I'm just not used to seeing you around anymore, it wasn't sarcastic :lol: Everything in this house, is the cheap stuff, even if it were upgraded. Owner of the pet store tested PH, ammonia (0), and hardness for me, but didn't have other tests -.-

And where do you get a R/O unit??? I've never seen one in stores here or in the city :(
 

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although I wish my thread stayed on track. If I were to breed her, would she be one I'd have to watch constantly instead of being able to leave them be?
 

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If you watch them they'll never get anything done (hence why it took me awhile to get a spawn...). Check them every hour for longer than five minuets.
 

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makes sense :) one male I had to put white paper up to hide all distractions because he LOVED to flare at everything else :lol: but he was also a "leave alone for a couple hours...now you have a spawn!" that pair was the easiest pair to spawn... but that was just luck :/ it won't be as easy any other spawn!
 

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Aggressive females are usually easier to breed. You only need to get her "in the mood" by treating her like any male (breeder) - isolate and exercise regularly. If she is healthy and in breeding age, she should get into the breeding mood. She will flirt swim every time you flare her, just like a male, indicating that she's ready to breed. It would be best to breed her to an aggressive male because if the male doesn't chase her she might attack the male..... this is rare in my tanks but I've heard many experience this.

These females will usually "lead" the courtship ritual ..... until she is bitten. But she should spawn faster because she will not hide for long and or will constantly approach the male. Non aggressive females sometimes hides for too long, making the whole process longer.

I usually release both just before dark. Watch them for about half an hour to see how they swim. If all is OK, I leave them alone until the following day. They usually spawn the following day - veterans in the early morning but first timers often spawn near or after noon.
 
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