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Which make would you breed? I'm gathering opinions on which ones have best form and finnagge




 

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I would want either the 2nd or 3rd for you to breed.
But I have a feeling that the 3rd one is better.
Even if the 2nd Betta's Tail Fin is more accurate for a 180 Degree angle,
I just have the Feeling.
Since your a better Betta Fishkeeper than me, you should have a feeling of which one you think is best. You Decide. Good Luck with Choosing!!! :D
 

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I'd go with number 2 cause of his colors. I know nothing of anything else. Well I do. Just not a lot. lol.
But really, I'd ask MrV. ^.^
 

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Thanks. I have virtually no experience in genetics so I though I would ask on which one has better form first, I already own the third male as my personal Betta pet. He is very aggresive, protective of his bubble nests, a very good bubblenester, and has a great personality

Oh, and the 2nd make is an over halfmoon I believe. His fins exceed that D shape
 

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Male number 2 has the best form/fins out of the 3. Male number 3 looks really nice too but doesn't have good enough branching or sharp caudal edges IMO. I wouldn't really consider male number 1 for a breeding program...
 

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My toughts were the same on male 1. I really look forward to breeding. If I do get male 2 I'm definitely going to breed him, the person said that they will give male 2 to me, and a sibling female as long as I provide them with a pair from the spawn. If I do breed male 3. Then should I try breeding him with a female than has attributes that will improve the rays. Or just not bother with it
 

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If I you were to breed male #3, look for a DT female or one that's DT geno. That will give you better dorsals. Make sure the female comes from a good HM family. A cross like that would give you HM's with better dorsals and with good branching .
 

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Okay. Thank you for your help! I Don't think I'll breed male 3 anymore
 

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I'd still go with male number 2. Notice the floppy dorsal and long anal on male #4? Not good traits to pass down. What female are you planning on using?
 

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I didn't notice the dorsal but I definitely noticed the anal, I'm not quite experienced in breeding so I didn't exactly know if there was something wrong with breeding him. I don't have any pictures of the females. But the one you are recommending that I breed, the seller has a sibling female
 

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Here's my two cents-

The first male, though it's kind of hard to tell because it isn't a straight on flare shot, has several issues. Tried to highlight them below.



The dorsal is a bit long, and has either damage or random extended rays. It should be a bit more forward-facing and broader, too. The caudal has some damage to it, and the anal looks a bit too long, and should also be more forward facing.

The second male:


He's got nice vibrant coloring, but has some issues as well. The branching on the caudal and dorsal is a little bent, could definitely be straighter. The caudal penducle should also be a bit thicker, where the body meets the caudal. He's also got some bad scaling towards the front of his body. The anal is a tad long, and the blue pattern isn't continued on the anal fin like the other two fins. Ideally the pattern should be consistent on all three fins.

The third male I believe is the best overall, although his caudal is a bit off balance, the dorsal is just a touch too short, and the anal is a touch too long. Definitely the best out of the 4, though.



The fourth male, the mustard gas, is my least favorite. His anal is very, very long, and his dorsal is short. His ventral fins should be longer, and there are a few branches on the caudal that are bent/wavy. He also has a mild spoon-head.





So, my choice would be the blue. Hope I helped. =)
 

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The third boy's anal is has the perfect shape in my opinion...I guess he would make a good breeding project if paired to a nicely branched DT geno or DT female...I really like that the 2nd male has better branching and better balance overall though.
 

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I would breed the second male. Yes he has issues - otherwise the breeder wouldn't sell him :lol:
Notice the front ray of his dorsal - straight and firm. This trait is hard to achieve in a few generations and is hard to maintain if not bred correctly. Another trait I like about him is his wide ventral, something not all long fins have. His faults may be genetic but IMO can easily be bred out.

Pair him to a 4 ray female with symmetrical body, preferably pointed edge caudal. She doesn't have to be HM, super DeT should be OK - thus avoid roses. Look for a dorsal that rather stands .... this should be close to impossible. Most important she must have balanced fins.

It would be easier to breed female F1 to father. Make at least 2 batches to ensure his traits on F2. Then inbreed F2. You should have something very close to daddy.
 

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Thank you for all your help! I'm very confident on breeding male #2
 
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