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Hello all, I normally post in the breeding and photo forums but thought folks here could help as the issue started when I added plants to my fry tank.

* A little background info. - I moved my Mustard Gas fry to a 10 gal tank when they were approx 5 days and added Hornwort from my LFS. This was a week and half ago as now the fry are 2 weeks old. I know that this store is family owned and grow their own Hornwort in their pond at the residence. I've purchased this plant from them before which are currently in my other tanks (no issues).

A few days ago I noticed and explosion of pond snails as well as these particles floating at the surface of the water along the edges (photo). They are off-white in color, thin and sometimes curved. I thought the were larvae but they do not appear alive.

I've tried to suck them out the particles and tiny snails using a turkey baster every day but they keep reappearing (both). I've added 4 Assassin snails from my other tank but the particles are starting to concern me as I don't know where they are coming from or if they are harmful to the fry.

Anyone that can offer any insight or advice is greatly appreciated!
 

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They look like they could be Detritus worms. Nothing to worry about, they are harmless for your fish. They are pretty common in aquariums and could have come from the plant as they eat decaying plant matter. They usually make a home in the substrate. They're super small so it can be hard to tell if they are moving or not.

I never noticed mine until I turned all my lights off and covered the sides of my tank to deal with some bad algae, and they came to the glass then I assume because it was darker :p They float in the water sometimes too.

It could also be a bacteria bloom? I've heard that you can actually see the particles floating in the water sometimes when that happens.
 

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I thought they were worms too but they are not alive. They are actual floating pieces of matter that float on the edges then sink when water-logged.

They look like they could be Detritus worms. Nothing to worry about, they are harmless for your fish. They are pretty common in aquariums and could have come from the plant as they eat decaying plant matter. They usually make a home in the substrate. They're super small so it can be hard to tell if they are moving or not.

I never noticed mine until I turned all my lights off and covered the sides of my tank to deal with some bad algae, and they came to the glass then I assume because it was darker 😛 They float in the water sometimes too.

It could also be a bacteria bloom? I've heard that you can actually see the particles floating in the water sometimes when that happens.
 

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Hmm...may seem like a stupid question, but is the tank an open top tank? Is there a lid? It could just be particles from the air, like dust haha.
Or, if you have hard water like me, the calcium that builds on the glass can get dislodged and do that, float at the top then eventually sink and dissolve. If its not alive and it sinks after becoming water logged, I doubt its something the aquarium is producing, but I'm no expert.
I would just recommend putting a lid on your tank if you don't have one already to stop any debris from coming in.
 

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Hi, yes I have a lid on the tank. Especially since my fry are still so tiny. There is no clacium build up as the tank is new.....these are actual pieces of something and wondered if they could be by product of pond snails or Hornwort.

Hmm...may seem like a stupid question, but is the tank an open top tank? Is there a lid? It could just be particles from the air, like dust haha.
Or, if you have hard water like me, the calcium that builds on the glass can get dislodged and do that, float at the top then eventually sink and dissolve. If its not alive and it sinks after becoming water logged, I doubt its something the aquarium is producing, but I'm no expert.
I would just recommend putting a lid on your tank if you don't have one already to stop any debris from coming in.
 

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Not sure what the particles are.

To clean out snails, you could use vegetable clipping. I use a piece of cucumber tied to a string. Let it sink. Once "enough" snails gather, I pull it out. You may have to repeat numerous times, specially if there's an adult snail.
 

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Thanks! I will try that as well....will carrots or lettuce work? I think that's what I have at the moment. 😂

Also, these particles are increasing in volume despite my siphoning them out every day.
(Closer pic attached). The fry are still very tiny and I'm hesitant to move them again, but I might have to. Strange thing is, it's only in this tank where these particles and snails appear and not the others with the same Hornwort plant addition. 🤔


Not sure what the particles are.

To clean out snails, you could use vegetable clipping. I use a piece of cucumber tied to a string. Let it sink. Once "enough" snails gather, I pull it out. You may have to repeat numerous times, specially if there's an adult snail.
 

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They look like worms. I've never had anything like that.

Lettuce works. Never tried carrots but any vegetable should work
 

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They do look like worms but do not move at all...
They are also sticking to the glass down the corners of the tank. But here is a closer pic. If I didn't already attach it.

Also, they get water logged and sink. 🤔

They look like worms. I've never had anything like that.

Lettuce works. Never tried carrots but any vegetable should work
 

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yeah, those definitely look like worms. See if you can grab one and look at it under a magnifying glass or super zoomed in with a phone.

It could be that you're seeing just the dead worms? Maybe something is making them die so you're only now seeing them.
Usually if you have a full grown betta or fish in there they make tasty snacks, so you probably wouldn't see a buildup. The babies wouldn't be big enough to eat them or want to.

I mean...it could be snail poop? But I doubt that, it doesn't really float. Definitely looks like worms to me. The ones I have move veerrryy slowly. I don't notice their movement unless I really watch them.

The worms I mentioned tend to show up when there's an excess of food, so since you're feeding the babies so often that could be why you're just now seeing them.
 

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Hi, yes I did look very closely and they are not moving. I thought of snail poop too but since they float, are light in color and tubelike, I ruled those out as well. They almost look like something left over...if that makes any sense. Strangely there are some stuck to the corners upnand down the glass. I just siphoned some more out along with new baby pond snails. When pond snails breed, do they produce any byproduct? Like I mentioned before, it is only in this tank. I have another tankbwith older fry that shares the same plant divided. And there are No snails and not particles.
I have a paper due today and I haven't been able to concentrate! 😩



yeah, those definitely look like worms. See if you can grab one and look at it under a magnifying glass or super zoomed in with a phone.

It could be that you're seeing just the dead worms? Maybe something is making them die so you're only now seeing them.
Usually if you have a full grown betta or fish in there they make tasty snacks, so you probably wouldn't see a buildup. The babies wouldn't be big enough to eat them or want to.

I mean...it could be snail poop? But I doubt that, it doesn't really float. Definitely looks like worms to me. The ones I have move veerrryy slowly. I don't notice their movement unless I really watch them.

The worms I mentioned tend to show up when there's an excess of food, so since you're feeding the babies so often that could be why you're just now seeing them.
 

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I asked elsewhere:
Might be planaria - it may harm smaller fry but will be eaten by bigger ones. None seems to know exactly what it is.

If not moving at all, it may have died or it may be a cocoon of some sort - thus may pollute your water.

In any case, it would be safer (both for fry and your sanity. Lol) to move fry - if possible.
 

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Thank you for investigating I really appreciate it. I've moved about a hundred more or less so far but not sure how many survive as seeing that it is 100% water change. I will continue to rry to get the rest and being as careful as possible not to transfer any of the particles. But only time will tell if I was successful or not. I added a little Methelyne Blue to their water to cover any fungal issues. But their tank is definitely polluted. I'm getting rid of everything that was in there expect the heater. But nevertheless I continue this arduous task. I even slipped and fell but not major damage....I will post an update later. I usually do in my spawn logs.
Thanks again. 💜

I asked elsewhere:
Might be planaria - it may harm smaller fry but will be eaten by bigger ones. None seems to know exactly what it is.

If not moving at all, it may have died or it may be a cocoon of some sort - thus may pollute your water.

In any case, it would be safer (both for fry and your sanity. Lol) to move fry - if possible.
 
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