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Somebody please help me, I don't know what to do- I know this is a betta forum but my goldfish really need help and I don't know where else to ask for help. I rescued five from walmart yesterday, which I talked about in another thread. The are currently in a ten gallon tank ( I know WAY too small for goldies, but it was all I had, and it really was urgent that I got them out. Well, I am treating them with API SUPER ICK CURE and it says that the treatment plan takes six days, and that I cannot perform a water change for three more days. Three of the fish (who were VERY sick, have already died :cry: Ammonia levels are rising in my ten gallon tank and I have a 20 gallon set up with quick start, stress coat and aquarium salt. I know they would be much more comfortable there. The two remaining fantails seem much better, they still have visible white spots from the ich but are quite active and seem to be improving. My question is- can I move them in the middle of the treatment, to this new tank and continue treating them there as if I never moved them, or do I have to stop treatment all together if I move them. Or should I just continue treating them in the ten gallon and risk ammonia poisoning. I know this is a betta forum- I just really need help and I am so sorry if this post seems inappropriate.
 

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I'm sure you can move them to the 20 gallon and continue treatment. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. I'm not a goldie expert in any way (nor am I a betta expert either) but I don't see why you couldn't continue treatment in the new tank, they'd probably be happier in the bigger tank too.
 

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Well since I own 2 fancy goldfish I am happy to help!

First of all is your 20 gallon cycled ?

How many goldfish do you still have?

Are they non active in any way?

What species of goldfish do you own?

Most likely you bought some common or comet goldfish if you did they will need a much bigger tank or even pond (they grow huge) they can grow up from 12 in or to even 2 ft.

If you bought fancy goldfish each goldfish will need 20 gallons per goldfish.

Now on to the disease and transporting your fish: IMO I would do 75% water changes every day and add aquarium salt. Try to raise the temperatures a bit higher as well.

Transporting your fish: I honestly would SLOWLY acclimate your fish since they are in enough stress already. Once they are in the 20gallon you keep up your water chanes keep your temperatures (not to warm) and keep the salt baths up.

I hope this helps pm me of you have anymore questions ;)
 

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Well since I own 2 fancy goldfish I am happy to help!

First of all is your 20 gallon cycled ?

How many goldfish do you still have?

Are they non active in any way?

What species of goldfish do you own?

Most likely you bought some common or comet goldfish if you did they will need a much bigger tank or even pond (they grow huge) they can grow up from 12 in or to even 2 ft.

If you bought fancy goldfish each goldfish will need 20 gallons per goldfish.

Now on to the disease and transporting your fish: IMO I would do 75% water changes every day and add aquarium salt. Try to raise the temperatures a bit higher as well.

Transporting your fish: I honestly would SLOWLY acclimate your fish since they are in enough stress already. Once they are in the 20gallon you keep up your water chanes keep your temperatures (not to warm) and keep the salt baths up.

I hope this helps pm me of you have anymore questions ;)
Oh thank you so much!! Here are the answers to your questions. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the help. I love these little guys.

The tank is not cycled, but I used quick start upon setting it up.
There are two remaining goldfish
One of them is a little spitfire, she is very active and seems happy (but still has ich) the other is slower moving and seems less active, but only just so and he is pretty active as well.
They are both calico fantails
I have raised the temp to try to speed up the ich cycle, the fish seem unaffected by it thank goodness. I gave them both salt baths today- as well as the three that passed away, but they were VERY sick (much much sicker then these two and I eventually decided that they were suffering so I had to use clove oil and do it... Very sad... They were suffering, I guess it was the only thing I could do.:-:)cry: I just want to help save their friends!!
 

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I'm sure you can move them to the 20 gallon and continue treatment. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. I'm not a goldie expert in any way (nor am I a betta expert either) but I don't see why you couldn't continue treatment in the new tank, they'd probably be happier in the bigger tank too.
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Thank you very much for your opinion, I thought that might work too but I still wanted advice because these little guys are so fragile right now!! I really appreciate the help..
 

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Oh thank you so much!! Here are the answers to your questions. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the help. I love these little guys.

The tank is not cycled, but I used quick start upon setting it up.
There are two remaining goldfish
One of them is a little spitfire, she is very active and seems happy (but still has ich) the other is slower moving and seems less active, but only just so and he is pretty active as well.
They are both calico fantails
I have raised the temp to try to speed up the ich cycle, the fish seem unaffected by it thank goodness. I gave them both salt baths today- as well as the three that passed away, but they were VERY sick (much much sicker then these two and I eventually decided that they were suffering so I had to use clove oil and do it... Very sad... They were suffering, I guess it was the only thing I could do.:-:)cry: I just want to help save their friends!!
It's a good thing your trying your hardest other people don't even care about fish! Just keep up the good work and they'll be healthy in no time ;)
 

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It's a good thing your trying your hardest other people don't even care about fish! Just keep up the good work and they'll be healthy in no time ;)
Thank you so much- I am moving them very soon- they both have mild/moderate ich but are much stronger and more active then when I got them- I feel that being in a clean, well aerated tank with plenty of filtration and aquarium salt is better for them then continuing the ich treatment with ammonia levels rising. I hope that I am making the right choice... Fingers Crosses:|
 

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Thank you so much- I am moving them very soon- they both have mild/moderate ich but are much stronger and more active then when I got them- I feel that being in a clean, well aerated tank with plenty of filtration and aquarium salt is better for them then continuing the ich treatment with ammonia levels rising. I hope that I am making the right choice... Fingers Crosses:|
Yup great choice :-D I hope they get better! Good luck!
 

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Good news guys!! I moved the two of them (I named them Puff and Lull, which are sailing terms I'm a sailing dork lol>>) They seem really active and happy, but as I have recently discovered, one of them, Lull, is blind. He seems to get along just fine, and I think having a clean tank with few decorations for him to bump in to helps a lot.. Poor baby. His eyes are totally 100 percent black, and I don't even think he can see light from dark. I am wondering if he was just born like this or if it was caused by the poor conditions in his previous home.
 

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Well if you can post a pic might help ;) goldfish with black eyes doesn't mean their blind :) it's good their doing better ! And btw about his eye? Is it just one eye or both?
 

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Well if you can post a pic might help ;) goldfish with black eyes doesn't mean their blind :) it's good their doing better ! And btw about his eye? Is it just one eye or both?
he is not as active as the other and he also looks like he has some inflamation on one of his gills. Poor baby. Somebody didn't treat him the way he deserved. I know this is a bad pic, I will try to get another that shows the gill too, its sort of reddish
Its not just his appearance that makes me think he is blind, he behaves differently too...
 

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Well if you can post a pic might help ;) goldfish with black eyes doesn't mean their blind :) it's good their doing better ! And btw about his eye? Is it just one eye or both?
Both eyes are identical to this one. He doesn't seem to see or at least not very well. And you can see his gill in this picture, maybe I am concerned over nothing but it does look a little a pink and I am wondering if it is perhaps something I should be worrying over.
 

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Well he's definitely BT blind ;P don't worry I have a similar goldfish just an oranda with black eyes ;) and that pink stuff on his cheeks just watch out for it now :) probably not an infection or something maybe just coloring. If it gets worse tell me :)
 

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See.. This is my oranda :) he's not blind he just has black eyes ;)
Oh thank you so much! I am relieved but also feel stupid... I guess I just didn't think fish could have dark eyes like that and I also attributed his more sluggish behavior (which is already improving) to blindness. I will continue to monitor him, because even if he isn't blind he is def not as active and vibrant as the other.
 

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Oh thank you so much! I am relieved but also feel stupid... I guess I just didn't think fish could have dark eyes like that and I also attributed his more sluggish behavior (which is already improving) to blindness. I will continue to monitor him, because even if he isn't blind he is def not as active and vibrant as the other.
Haha no your not stupid! Just a mistake ^__^! We all do it haha. And thank you for the Goldie compliment ;) good luck with your goldfish update me if you have any problems!
 
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