Betta Fish Forum banner

1 - 20 of 89 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hello Everyone,

I've had my betta for almost a year. I keep him in a filtered aquarium tank and feed him hikari betta pellets 3 times a day, usually 5-10 pellets each. He has a heater that keeps the temperature around 85 F.

I went on vacation and kept him in the care of a friend. After I returned, I noticed behavioral changes, he stopped eating, started spending time in the bottom of the tank and didn't swim. I cleaned his water tank and changed his water, which seemed to improve things. He now swims around more.


Two days ago, I noticed he had a bulge on his right side only. I don't know if it's a tumor or because of overfeeding or if its dropsy. I have bought all possible medications and need help diagnosing him. I've included a picture.

I love my betta, and want to do anything I can to save his life! Can someone please tell me what's wrong with him and how to treat him?
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Joined
·
210 Posts
it may be bloat or he might be constipated search up bloat and constipation syndromes in betta fish
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
Thank you so much for responding! I really hope that's the case, I've started following instructions on how to treat for constipation.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
210 Posts
your welcome
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
22,700 Posts
No that actually looks like a cyst. Very common and it usually doesn't hurt them so much. You can use a low dosage of Epsom salt to help him get rid of the extra fluid, 1 teaspoon per gallon, mix up the salt in a separate container and add in a dribble every 10 minutes or more until it's all in. Important that you dissolve it first though, as salt dissolves it actually releases heat which can burn your betta but is fine afterwards.

Cysts will come and go but if that sucker pops, it won't be good. So just do the Epsom salt (100% Magnesium Sulfate no additives or scent found at wal-mart/pharmacy store not pet store) and then just do either a full water change if you can or half of it every other day to get rid of anything nasty that he's excreted. So once you take out the water, you also take out salt, so if you take out 2 gallons, you replace 2 teaspoons because you are doing 1 teaspoon per gallon. So if it's say a 5 gallon tank, you use 5 teaspoons. okay?

Do that for about a week to see how he reacts to it.

Also you are over feeding, he doesn't need 3 meals a day. One meal a day will suffice with 6-10 pellets, eating 30 pellets a day is very bad. So cut out on that and if you like, you can give him one Fasting day a week. So one day a week that he doesn't eat so that it keeps his digestive track moving and nothing get stuck in there and makes him constipated or bloated, okay?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #6
Thank you so much for those instructions!!! I will start using Epsom salts today and do full water changes just like you mentioned. Today is the first day I've started fasting him and I will cut back on his food intake as well.


I really hope it's not something fatal, I can't imagine losing him!
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
22,700 Posts
Cysts usually aren't fatal, even if they open up you should then be able to treat with Aquarium salt but for now to reduce the swelling use Epsom. Cysts will come and go so this one may go away or burst and then another can come along, same thing happens in humans although it's much more risky to try to remove it from fish.

It can be fatal but usually they'll be fine, just make him comfortable is all :)

You can still feed him normally as I did mention so today can be fasting and then just feed him as I suggested tomorrow :) He'll still need to keep up his strength. Also make sure to take out any uneaten food so it doesn't spoil your water ^_^

So just make sure you dissolve the salt, I use a little cup, measure out the salt and with some tank water in there, stir it around and then you can dribble it into the tank a little at a time. You can do one teaspoon per 15 minutes if you want to measure it that way. And then when you change his water, put the salt in before you put him back (if you're doing 100% change) and then if he's in a cup, float him in his tank and add a Tablespoon of new tank water to his tank every 10 minutes to acclimate him to it :)

I hope he does well and update or ask questions as needed!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
I I did the water change and added epsom salt instead of aquarium salt. He was acting very aggressive without food, so I just decided to feed him today and fast him tomorrow while I'm out. I'll stick to 100% water changes for the next 7 days.

He's swimming around and seems normal. I will keep you posted about his progress - hopefully his bulge subsides. Thank you so much for your help! I was going crazy these past few days trying to figure out what's wrong with him!
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
22,700 Posts
Okay! Sounds good! I'll keep a lookout for it then ^_^ I hope it does go away at least, it's never fun dealing with cysts and I know first hand unfortunately ><
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
Hey lilnaugrim,

I woke up this morning and noticed a few thread like strings attached to four of his lower fins. It's only visible under sunlight. He isn't swimming as much as yesterday. There's nothing on his body or mouth though. Is that cotton wool disease?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
210 Posts
that could be a fungus or possibly hair that got in your tank cant really tell unless I see a pic, Hows his Cyst
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
22,700 Posts
Hey lilnaugrim,

I woke up this morning and noticed a few thread like strings attached to four of his lower fins. It's only visible under sunlight. He isn't swimming as much as yesterday. There's nothing on his body or mouth though. Is that cotton wool disease?
Nope, he's shedding his slime coat. It often happens when you use salt in the water on the freshwater fish. What it's doing is aggitating the slime coat so that your fish is now overproducing his slime coat so in order to get rid of the old slime coat, he sheds it. That's what you're seeing now. Perfectly normal and he'll be fine :) Now if you start seeing slimy patches on his body, then that would be more something like a Body Slime Infection but I'm certain he doesn't have that :)

Cottonmouth or Columnaris would appear as cottony balls or tufts on him and his fins. Some strains are easier to treat than others, often I find if the columnaris is on the fins, it's easy to treat with AQ salt and after a few days they're good to go again. but anyway it doesn't appear stringy so that's not what he's got ^_^
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
it was his slime coat, the strings disappeared when I came to take photos of it. I'm slightly going paranoid because of the cyst! I took some more photos of him today, the bulge is still there. I'm going to do his second water change now.
 

Attachments

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
22,700 Posts
Good ^_^

Hmm his fins are lookin a bit ragged as well, poor dear. You can use some Stress Coat to help heal those tears up, it contains Aloe Vera in it which helps heal the fin membrane very well :) It takes time but it will heal quicker with Stress Coat if you can find it.

Also, does he have a heater in there with him?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #15
You're right, his fins aren't in the best condition. I've started using API stress coat since Monday. How long does it usually take for his fins to become healthy again?

He does have a submersible eheim heater in his aquarium and a water filter. I don't know if that's the best heater to use because I feel like the water temperature fluctuates a little more than it should.

Right now he's in a 5 Gallon tank, but I'm planning to move him into a bigger tank so he has more space to swim in. I just hope he pulls through this :(
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
22,700 Posts
Is it an adjustable one? Eheim is usually a really great company to get things from, and 5 gallons is totally awesome for one fish! But if you feel he needs more room, I'm sure he won't complain ^_^

As for fin growth, it depends on the fish and their age. A younger fish will regenerate their fins quicker than an older fish. Also their diet, a good diet which what you've been doing looks great, will stimulate fin growth as well as clean, warm water and Stress Coat.

Generally I find that most tears will heal within about 2 weeks because it just needs to stitch back together basically. But when it comes to tears and chunks that have been taken out, it takes a lot longer to heal because it needs to regrow the whole fin. So my boy in my avatar, Rembrandt, actually had bitten a chunk from his tail fin in frustrate a while ago and it took him just about two months to fully heal, one month it looked pretty good but still was missing a little at the end to complete his full halfmoon form. He's about 11 months old at this point so he's almost a year old! (wow crazy how time flies!)

So since he does look just a tad older I speculate that it will take about 2-3 weeks for that first tear to heal but that second one looks like a whole ray was taken out so that will take a little while longer. But as I said, good, clean, warm water is key as well as their diet and keeping them comfortable and he'll be right as rain soon!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #17
Yes it's an adjustable one. My aquarium tank is circular so I feel something which is wider would allow him more room to swim. I got Papadoupolos in August, 2012, when he was little, so I'm sure he's a year old now.

Yikes! I had no idea betta's can bite their own fins off!! Right now I'm using Hikari betta pellets - I think I should perhaps add more variety to his diet.

Thank you so much for all your help! This is my first betta and I really want him to be happy. I hope he gets better soon :)
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
22,700 Posts
Yeah they can! They're very talented little suckers lol, it's unfortunate though when they do because they usually have gorgeous finnage and then they ruin it!

But anyway, yes a varied diet will certainly be a good step forward. You wouldn't like to eat broccoli your whole life right? So your Betta would like variety as well ;-) As far as food goes you want things that don't have many fillers in it like wheat, corns and soybean products. You look at the first three ingredients to see the most important ingredients. Like Omega One is super good because their first three ingredients are: Whole Salmon, Halibut, and Shrimp so you see no fillers in the first three, that's what you look for. Even if it has one filler in the first three, it's better than most food. Like New Life Spectrum which is: Whole Antarctic krill meal, whole herring meal, whole wheat flour. So only one filler which isn't too bad, most NLS also contains garlic to help ward off internal parasites as well so that's good.

I'm sure he'll be getting better soon! I know the lump isn't going to be fun for him but it shouldn't be fatal at the moment, let me know if it changes; get's bigger/smaller.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion Starter #19
I've ordered the food you mentioned for him! I wanted to update you about his condition. His swelling hasn't become bigger or smaller as far as I can tell. I've cut back on his food as well and he's become a lot more hyper! He literally jumps out of the water when I feed him to catch his pellets even before it lands into the water. He does summersaults in the water when it's feeding time - I've really never seen him so active - I don't know if he's doing this out of hunger. He swims around a lot more and his fins are already mending! I'm still doing 100 percent water changes daily and this thursday will be the 7th day. Should I still be worried about the bulge on his right side since there hasn't been any changes yet?
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
22,700 Posts
No he's just really happy! Being overfed all the time can make him feel lethargic and not active, same as it does in humans. So now that he's getting the right amount and with good water changes, he's so much happier!

If there hasn't been changes to the bulge then keep the AQ treatment up until 14 days, if you see his bulge getting bigger than immediately stop. AQ salt actually makes them retain fluid so I was worried about him swelling or anything to the AQ salt but if you haven't seen any effect then he's sure to be fine. But if there was a reaction to it then you just stop the AQ salt, give a full days rest of all salts and then switch to Epsom salt which is used as a laxative so that he can release his fluids, you see?

It might be worth a try to do an Epsom treatment after all the AQ treatment and his fins are all settled. If the Epsom doesn't help then there's really nothing you can do for the bulge, it doesn't look tumor in nature to me so if it is a cyst then you just have to watch out for it popping is all. But he should be okay :)
 
1 - 20 of 89 Posts
Top