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I think petsmart lied, please help me with my Betta. I'm worried for him

Hello, I' new to the forums =) I just wish I found this site earlier. I'm in dire need of help!

I went to petsmart because I decided I wanted a pet but not one that took up to much space. I decided to get a Betta. They had a great sale on a 10 gallon tank with everything included so I was ready to purchase A nice size tank for him.
As I was about to purchase the tank, the fish associate asked me if I needed help. I said no, that I was setting up a tank for a Betta fish and that I know I have to wait at least 6 weeks for cycle to be complete for him. She looked at me like I'm crazy and said I'm wasting money on a 10 gallon kit. She also explained that waiting for the cycle system was unnecessary for a Betta fish. All I have to do is wait 24 hours and then I can put him in his new home. She said that Bettas like small environments which is why they re put in bowls small tanks etc. I told her I don't like the idea of any animal leaving in a small space especially A CUP! She gave me a whole speech on Bettas soon after. She recommended sizes 1-5 gallons. Listening to her advice as she seemed very adamant about her own information. I went with a 1 gallon start up kit. She explained that by putting him in a 10 gallon it would severely stress him because he wouldn't know what to do with so much space. So also said I have to feed him once every other day.

Now heres my concern, I was browsing last night online on some Betta photos and photos of other Betta tanks for design ideas I came across this forum. I read about 2 posts that explained the complete opposite of what that associate told me. I'm really worried for him. I have him now in the plastic cup they had him in. And the one gallon was only going for 24 hours. I'm worried that if I put him in the 1 gallon without a full cycle hes going to die from stress or illness, I'm also worried that by leaving him in that nasty plastic cup hes going to get sick. The cup water is literally blue, I don't know why... maybe a chemical to keep the water clean? I don't know buts its very aggravating to see him in there. Hes a Betta with a great personality. Very active and friendly. Whenever I go near him he swims and follows me around. I don't know if hes following his reflection but he only does it when I go by him. He also comes by my finger and I can touch him. Its odd to say it about a fish, but I instantly bonded with him within a few hours of purchase.

What can I do to help him? Like I said, I'm worried that putting him in a non cycled tank he will die and I fear he will get sick in that nasty cup. :-( Also on the cycle process, do you just leave the tank and filter running for 6 weeks? or do you have to add stuff like fish food and let it dissolve in the water to add bacteria? In regards to feeding, how much is recommended? I don't know if I should've trusted that associated. I figure they're trustworthy since well, its petsmart :shock:
 

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Hello, I' new to the forums =) I just wish I found this site earlier. I'm in dire need of help!

I went to petsmart because I decided I wanted a pet but not one that took up to much space. I decided to get a Betta. They had a great sale on a 10 gallon tank with everything included so I was ready to purchase A nice size tank for him.
As I was about to purchase the tank, the fish associate asked me if I needed help. I said no, that I was setting up a tank for a Betta fish and that I know I have to wait at least 6 weeks for cycle to be complete for him. She looked at me like I'm crazy and said I'm wasting money on a 10 gallon kit. She also explained that waiting for the cycle system was unnecessary for a Betta fish. All I have to do is wait 24 hours and then I can put him in his new home. She said that Bettas like small environments which is why they re put in bowls small tanks etc. I told her I don't like the idea of any animal leaving in a small space especially A CUP! She gave me a whole speech on Bettas soon after. She recommended sizes 1-5 gallons. Listening to her advice as she seemed very adamant about her own information. I went with a 1 gallon start up kit. She explained that by putting him in a 10 gallon it would severely stress him because he wouldn't know what to do with so much space. So also said I have to feed him once every other day.

Now heres my concern, I was browsing last night online on some Betta photos and photos of other Betta tanks for design ideas I came across this forum. I read about 2 posts that explained the complete opposite of what that associate told me. I'm really worried for him. I have him now in the plastic cup they had him in. And the one gallon was only going for 24 hours. I'm worried that if I put him in the 1 gallon without a full cycle hes going to die from stress or illness, I'm also worried that by leaving him in that nasty plastic cup hes going to get sick. The cup water is literally blue, I don't know why... maybe a chemical to keep the water clean? I don't know buts its very aggravating to see him in there. Hes a Betta with a great personality. Very active and friendly. Whenever I go near him he swims and follows me around. I don't know if hes following his reflection but he only does it when I go by him. He also comes by my finger and I can touch him. Its odd to say it about a fish, but I instantly bonded with him within a few hours of purchase.

What can I do to help him? Like I said, I'm worried that putting him in a non cycled tank he will die and I fear he will get sick in that nasty cup. :-( Also on the cycle process, do you just leave the tank and filter running for 6 weeks? or do you have to add stuff like fish food and let it dissolve in the water to add bacteria? In regards to feeding, how much is recommended? I don't know if I should've trusted that associated. I figure they're trustworthy since well, its petsmart :shock:
First off, welcome to forums! :)

It's completely unnessecary to cycle a 1g tank. Anything below 4 gallons is almost impossible. So, you should be fine.

Bettas can be kept in 1g tanks, but a more preferred tank would be 2.5g or higher.

She actually is right in some aspects. Some bettas love bigger spaces, while others freak out in larger tanks. I would go with a 2.5g to a 3g tank. It's a nice, spacious home for bettas that they will enjoy. I'd just return the 1g, unless you want to keep something smaller.

A 10g would be nice if you'd like to make it a community tank with maybe 5-6 neon tetras and the betta, or you could divide the tank up to 4 times and get more bettas! It's up to you.

If you'd like any help on how to make dividers, if that sounds interesting to you, shoot me a PM (private message) or a VM (visitor message) on my profile.

Glad to see someone who actually cares for the well being of their fish!
 

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A one gallon tank is really hard to cycle. I recommend not cycling it. Bettas can live in non cycled water as long as you do weekly water changes. So don't be stressed about that aspect.

If you want to cycle it maybe someone else can help you on here about that because I have never cycled anything before.

A one gallon will be okay for him as long as you keep the water warm enough about 78 degrees and You keep it nice and clean. Some people on here have recommended I do a 50% water change and a 100% water change weekly
 

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I had just written a big response to you and I pressed back by accident. . .
I'll have it in about 5 or 10 mins! lol
 

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The blue water is from medicine they put in the water.
As the others above have stated, it is impossible to cycle a 1 Gallon, as it is too small to hold a cycle.

A betta is happy in anything larger than 1 Gallon. :) 1 Gallon isn't always recommended as it is a lot of maintenance and is hard to heat. With a 10 Gallon you only have to do a water change once a week and can be heated very safely. It also gives your betta much much more room to swim. In the 10 Gallon you can give your betta some tankmates like cory catfish and neon tetras! I'g go ahead and put him in either tank, it's really up to you! :D
 

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First off, welcome to forums! :)

It's completely unnessecary to cycle a 1g tank. Anything below 4 gallons is almost impossible. So, you should be fine.

Bettas can be kept in 1g tanks, but a more preferred tank would be 2.5g or higher.

She actually is right in some aspects. Some bettas love bigger spaces, while others freak out in larger tanks. I would go with a 2.5g to a 3g tank. It's a nice, spacious home for bettas that they will enjoy. I'd just return the 1g, unless you want to keep something smaller.

A 10g would be nice if you'd like to make it a community tank with maybe 5-6 neon tetras and the betta, or you could divide the tank up to 4 times and get more bettas! It's up to you.

If you'd like any help on how to make dividers, if that sounds interesting to you, shoot me a PM (private message) or a VM (visitor message) on my profile.

Glad to see someone who actually cares for the well being of their fish!
Thank you so much. You took a ton of worry off my shoulders. I was actually thinking of doing a 10 community tank with my Betta and about 5 tetras, or maybe even 2 3 Cory fish instead. I think that's what they're called? For now I'm going to keep him in the 1 gallon and upgrade to the 10 community. I'm just wonder though, How do I introduce him to the new water in the 1 gallon? I'm not exactly sure if I can let the cup float on the water lol... Do I put little spoonfuls of the new water in his cup? Thats something I failed to ask :-( at the store. I don't want him to undergo shock. I'm sorry if I'm asking so much, I just want him to be happy and healthy ;-)

The 1 gallon has a very light filter, its not strong and sometimes I look to see if its even on and working lol. So with a filter, how often should I do water changes?

I eventually would like to do dividers with 2 bettas. I need to settle my one first. How do you PM on here lol. I'm still trying to figure this forum out
 

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Thank you so much. You took a ton of worry off my shoulders. I was actually thinking of doing a 10 community tank with my Betta and about 5 tetras, or maybe even 2 3 Cory fish instead. I think that's what they're called? For now I'm going to keep him in the 1 gallon and upgrade to the 10 community. I'm just wonder though, How do I introduce him to the new water in the 1 gallon? I'm not exactly sure if I can let the cup float on the water lol... Do I put little spoonfuls of the new water in his cup? Thats something I failed to ask :-( at the store. I don't want him to undergo shock. I'm sorry if I'm asking so much, I just want him to be happy and healthy ;-)

The 1 gallon has a very light filter, its not strong and sometimes I look to see if its even on and working lol. So with a filter, how often should I do water changes?

I eventually would like to do dividers with 2 bettas. I need to settle my one first. How do you PM on here lol. I'm still trying to figure this forum out

Since everyone else already answered your other questions..I'll answer your acclimating ones :)

First, float the cup in his tank for about a half hour. Then slowly had little cupfuls of his new tank water to his cup every five-ten minutes. When it's full, dump out half and repeat the process till it's full again. Then simply net him out and off he goes! :)
 

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Thank you all for you help and advice.

As far as heating is concerned. My room is always at 80 degrees. Where I live its winter right now so my house is always heated. I have a thermometer for him and its at exactly 80 degrees. When the summer comes in my room also gets very hot so I felt like I didn't need a heater. So hes good in that area. As far as feeding is it correct to feed once every other day?
 

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Since everyone else already answered your other questions..I'll answer your acclimating ones :)

First, float the cup in his tank for about a half hour. Then slowly had little cupfuls of his new tank water to his cup every five-ten minutes. When it's full, dump out half and repeat the process till it's full again. Then simply net him out and off he goes! :)
Thank you guys for everything :-D
 

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I would suggest a heater regardless (even more so if you upgrade to a community). If there is a fluctuation in the temperature of the room, it will have an effect on the tank, which a heater will compensate for. Keeping a stable temperature is just as important as keeping a warm one, as fluctuating temperatures = stress, and stress = a sick fish.

Like almost everything else the petshop lady told you, she's wrong about feeding. Feed every day - multiple small meals being better than one big one. I would feed twice a day, roughly 3 pellets, depending on their size and the size of your fish. Bloodworms twice a week make a nice treat. You can also fast him one day a week if you like. :)
 

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Since everyone else already answered your other questions..I'll answer your acclimating ones :)

First, float the cup in his tank for about a half hour. Then slowly had little cupfuls of his new tank water to his cup every five-ten minutes. When it's full, dump out half and repeat the process till it's full again. Then simply net him out and off he goes! :)
Thank you for the advice, i put him in using your method and hes loving the tank. I can tell that i might have to get him something better. Hes very active and swims all over. I just have a question...

I put him in the tank and the filter while i had assumed was very soft and weak, it turns out every time he tried to get air the filter threw him against the wall. So he stayed near the bottom, i watched him to see how he behaved for the time being, i also noticed that when he would go near the part of the filter that sucks in the water he would get sucked in aswell and get stuck to a fake plant. I immediately turned it off because I don't want him to be stressed.

Is there anyway to lower the filters current? Or if I leave it off, how many times a week will i have to perform a water change? its 1 gallon tank. and how much water I remove?
 

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You've got a lot of good advice, but I'm going to throw in my two cents :)

It's great you want to get a 10 gallon- if you decide to, then I would check out on how to cycle it before adding in your betta and other fish.

In a 10 gallon you could get 5 small tetras and 3-4 cories along with the one betta.. as long as you keep up on the weekly water changes which will depend whether or not you go with live plants. Also keep in mind a lot of tetras are fin nippers.. so if you don't want to risk it, you could always go with some platies, sword tails or even guppies.

A 1 gallon is a fine home for them- as long as you do the water changes each week and find a suitable heater for that size.. I would recommend a 10-15 watt. But if you are going for a 10 gallon, then a 50 watt adjustable you will want to save up for.

Filters in tanks below 5 gallons can be very strong.. I personally wouldn't use a filter in any of my 1 gallons for that reason. A filtered tank that size (or any tank under 5 gallons that is filtered) would require 2 weekly water changes of 50%- one being water only, and one being stir/dip substrate cleaning.

Personally, it's just easier to do 1 50% and 1 100% per week and not have to deal with trying to clean the substrate in such a small tank, and not have to worry about the filter. A one gallon won't hold a stable cycle- so you wouldn't have to worry about that.. anything below 5 gallons won't hold a stable cycle.

If you do decide you want to leave the filter in, then you can get an aquarium sponge and cut it to fit into the outflow section- held on by a new/clean rubber band. That should reduce the flow from the filter.. but in a 1 gallon you will always have some current at the surface.
 
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