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My betta will NOT eat and is losing color. I don't want him to die!

I got a male veiltail betta from the pet store about 2 weeks ago, he is in a bowl with some elodea plants. The first few days he was extremely happy, making bubble nests and eating whatever I gave him. I started out feeding him freeze-dried bloodworms as I accidentally picked those up instead of beta pellets or flakes, and figured he could eat those for a few days until I got to the pet store.

After about three days of feeding him the worms I bought some beta pellets, and he refused to eat them. He would sniff them and swim away. I figured he was being picky so I fed him the worms again, but then he wouldn't eat those! It has been 5 DAYS NOW and he refuses to eat anything I feed him. He will bite the worms and immediately spit them back out, and won't even taste the pellets. I broke up the worms because I thought maybe they were too large, but he would not eat even the tiny fragments.

I keep his tank clean and he actually is continuing to make bubble nests which I was told is a sign he feels comfortable in his home. i just cleaned his bowl 2 days ago though and it is already extremely dirty and has some sort of film on top? What could be causing this? I am going to clean it again now but why is it getting so dirty all of the sudden?

What am I doing wrong?! Please help my poor hungry fish. :-(
 

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he probably got so use to the bloodworms he didnt wanna eat anything else. its ok to get blood worms they have almost the same amout of nutrition for your betta. dont worry i started feeding mine flakes but then i gave him pellets and he didnt eat them so i went back to flakes and know hes eating again!! and the color loss is probably from no food. Get the bloodworms as soon as possible
 

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I have a whole container of bloodworms, I've been giving them to him every day and he refuses to eat even the bloodworms now ):
 

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The film floating on the water is most likely a protein film.

How big is his bowl and how often do you do water changes? Do you use a water conditioner?
 

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I'd definitely suggest getting a tank of AT LEAST 2.5 gallons, and not a bowl. You could try soaking his pellets in garlic juice, it makes the food super appetizing, apparently. Or, you could buy NLS (new life spectrum) Betta pellets, which are pre-soaked in garlic juice. Also, please fill this out. it will help us assess his condition:

Housing
What size is your tank?
What temperature is your tank?
Does your tank have a filter?
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration?
Is your tank heated?
What tank mates does your betta fish live with?

Food
What type of food do you feed your betta fish?
How often do you feed your betta fish?

Maintenance

How often do you perform a water change?
What percentage of the water do you change when you perform a water change?
What type of additives do you add to the water when you perform a water change?

Water Parameters:
Have you tested your water? If so, what are the following parameters?

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
pH:
Hardness:
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Symptoms and Treatment
How has your betta fish's appearance changed?
How has your betta fish's behavior changed?
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Have you started treating your fish? If so, how?
Does your fish have any history of being ill?
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Yeah I guess I will have to get this guy a bigger tank.

Housing
-He is in an approx. 1.5 liter bowl by himself, it is not heated or filtered but the room temp is always at 75F.

Food
-Started him on Aqueon betta treat freeze-dried bloodworms (accidentally bought these), Bought him Wardley betta food "color intensifier) but he refused to eat any of it.

Maintenance
-Performing 100% water changes twice weekly, adding in BettaSafe water conditioner

Have not done a water test

Symptoms and Treatment
-I noticed just today that his bright blue color has dulled significantly
-Continues to make bubble nests
-Refuses to eat anything
-Hangs out at the bottom of the bowl
-I've had him for two weeks

*I think that maybe the elodea plants in his bowl were dying from lack of sunlight and causing an ammonia build up in the water so I went ahead and removed them from the bowl. Any thoughts on if this is possibly the problem?
 

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Okay, with a bowl that small you want to be doing daily water changes. What is likely happening is the ammonia from his waste and anything he doesn't eat that decomposes is giving him a case of ammonia poisoning which is spoiling his appetite.

Bubble nests aren't really a good comfort gauge. They do that to attract the girly fishies.

1.5 liters is kind of small. It'll be easier to manage if you go with something a bit bigger would be great. if you can't, try to squeeze in a few water changes.

edit: I posted after you and someone else, sorry about that. If you can squeeze in a heater, it'll help. The water in your fish tank is always around 2-3 degrees cooler than room temp and bettas like it at 78-82 Farenheit :)
 

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Thanks for your help! I will definitely keep up the daily water changes until I can get him a bigger and better home. Hopefully he will start feeling better. Thank you!!
 

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1.5 liters is far too small for a betta to healthily live in. Photos would be helpful. Bettas are tropical fish, and enjoy warmer waters; anywhere from 78*F - 86* F. Getting a larger tank and heater is suggested. The film is most likely a protein film, as mentioned earlier, which occurs from lack in water motion. With a bowl as small as 1.5 liters, you would honestly need almost daily water changes, but a larger tank would fix that (2 gallons needs 25-50% 2x and 100% 1x weekly). Your betta will eat when it is hungry, but it is most likely ignoring food because it is not feeling as comfortable as you may think. Are you sure he is making a bubble nest? I've included a picture of what a bubble nest looks like. Sometimes the protein film on top of my 2 gallon's tank water traps my betta's regular air bubbles, so it almost looks like a bubble nest, except it isn't one. Most bettas will refuse food and hang out at the bottom of the tank if they are feeling really cold, which is why I suggested a heater. I hope this information helps you. I know that I and the other members would love to see pictures of your baby! :)
 

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Sorry I posted late! I started rambling, but I missed the part about the ammonia poisoning as well. Darn that was a good one, Kuronue!
 

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Yeah I definitely realize now that his bowl is too small, I'll make sure to upgrade him. Yup thats exactly what his nests look like. I attached a picture of him the day I got him :-D
 

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Housing
-He is in an approx. 1.5 liter bowl by himself, it is not heated or filtered but the room temp is always at 75F. I'd highly suggest getting a Heater, but make sure you get an adjustable one, and not tetra brand, something like topfin, marineland visitherm or eheim jager. Bettas prefer a temp of 78-82 Fahrenheit.

Food
-Started him on Aqueon betta treat freeze-dried bloodworms (accidentally bought these), Bought him Wardley betta food "color intensifier) but he refused to eat any of it. wardley is mostly wheat-and-grain-based fillers. I'd highly suggest getting him something like new life spectrum, or, if you can't find it, omega one. Make sure you get pellets.
Maintenance
-Performing 100% water changes twice weekly, adding in BettaSafe water conditioner In a tank that small, you should be doing daily water changes, alternating between 100% and 50%. use same temp water. (Hold your thermometer under the tap until it's the right temp, then add conditioner.) Once you get a bigger tank you can do less of these.

Have not done a water test That's okay :)

Symptoms and Treatment
-I noticed just today that his bright blue color has dulled significantly
-Continues to make bubble nests
-Refuses to eat anything
-Hangs out at the bottom of the bowl
-I've had him for two weeks

*I think that maybe the elodea plants in his bowl were dying from lack of sunlight and causing an ammonia build up in the water so I went ahead and removed them from the bowl. Any thoughts on if this is possibly the problem?

I think he's cold and suffering from ammonia burns. I'll bet that if you upgraded to a tank of at least 2.5 gallons with a heater, did more frequent water changes, and fed him something a bit higher in quality, he'd perk up :)

I'm really sorry to give you such a big to-do list, but I've never had success with Bettas unless I did these things.

Good luck with your boy!! ~Saphira :)
 

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Are you sure that isn't a half gallon? I know that I have a half gallon bowl that looks incredibly similar to that one.
 

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Also, you mentioned having 2 elodea plants. Plants have special needs, and usually with an aquarium, you want to avoid sunlight as that can encourage algae bloom, especially if the plants are doing poorly.

Visit this sub-forum- http://www.bettafish.com/forumdisplay.php?f=147 For help with your plants. They have all the good info on plants ^^
 

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Also, Bettas can blow bubble nest even when they're feeling terrible.
 

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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
It's possible that it is a half gallon (which would still only be about 2 liters, correct?) bowl. Like I said, I was making a pretty rough estimate. Thank you everyone I really do appreciate your input!
 

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Kuronue, yeah I think I was being a little too ambitious trying to care for plants as well as a fish, they are pretty much dead so I went ahead and threw them out, my main focus is on making sure my betta stays alive
 
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