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Rather then keep on rambling in threads I start asking for help I figure I'd ramble here.

My boys are Monet, Pinkerton, and Mercury.

Monet is the oldest of the three, I got him in March from PetSense when my first boy Lucky passed away. He's a blue and red partial draonscale rosetail, with a sweet nature. Unfortunately the past 2 weeks he's been acting lethargic and does not want to eat, for the life of me I can't figure out what might be wrong with him, today he hid in his cave when I went to feed him. Speaking of which I need to do a water change on his tank due to the uneaten food in it. His tank is a 2.5 gal with mainly artificial silk plants and 1 live coin anubia.

Pinkerton I got 5 weeks ago from PetSmart. He's supposed to be a pastel butterfly halfmoon or delta betta but I think he's aiming to be a plakat. He's a feisty guy who insist on leaping for his food despite my efforts to get him to not, he also regularly bites my finger when I feed him LOL. Unfortunately he's a tail biter and so far is winning in the battle to get him to stop. Next up to try is shrinking his tank with some craft mesh and hopefully de-ramshorning some anacharis and putting it in for more cover. If anyone can tell me where I can buy a betta sized cone of shame I'd be eternally grateful!

Mercury I got around 3 days after Pinkerton. I got him from WalMart and he's a copper crowntail that was in a cup labeled veiltail. He was really pale when I got him and I figured people would keep passing him up for prettier fish so I bought him, he's colored up beautifully! He's pretty laid back and loves to swim over and say hello or beg for good. Out of the 3 he's giving me the least amount of trouble health wise.

Here's some pictures of the boys Monet's is from a week ago, and Pinkerton and Mercuy are from today.
 

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They are lovely<3 Are all of them in the same tank?
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They're in different tanks.

Pinkerton is in a 5 gal tank, it's why I'm wondering if he'd do better in a smaller one and stop the fin bitting. Mercury is in a 3 gal tank, and Monet is in a 2.5 gal one.

I've considered swapping tanks again, and putting Pinkerton into the 3 gal and Mercury in the 5 gal, but Mercury is doing excellent where he is and I'd hate for him to also develop a problem.
 

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A couple days ago I tried floating a piece of craft mesh in Pinkertons tank to see if he'd consider it top cover, I'm not sure if he does or not, but he has decided that it makes a really nice place to blow a bubble nest. I need to do a bit more research about how to do an Alum dip on plants and if anacharis will survive a dip. If will then I'll be able to move some of the anacharis from Mercury's tank into Pinkerton's. Which should hopefully solve the top cover problem.

For the past few days I've left the light off in Monet's tank, that seems to help a bit with his hiding, but unfortunately he's still very lethargic, and while he's eating a bit more he's still not eating like he used to. I really wish I knew what was wrong with him, no external problems that I can see, just the lethargy and lack of appetite. Once again I tested the ammonia and nitrite levels and both are fine.

Mercury is as cute and active as every. He's such a sweet boy and loves to come to the side of the tank to see what I"m up to.
 

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Water change day, aka fiddle with the tanks day, and I'm a day late doing it.

In addition to the water changes Pinkerton had his craft mesh removed, looks like the thrill was gone with it as no additional bubble nest were built. I floated some fake plants in the tank. I still need to get the anacharis ready, just been really tired lately and haven't wanted to fool with it. At the rate I'm going I'm lucky I got myself to do the water change. Pinkerton's tail is no better but no worse lately, and I'm still dosing with the Stress Guard. He's such a busy body and had to check out everything I did with the tank. Here's hoping he approved!

Mercury got a new Aquatop IF-201 Internal Filter, I'm not sure if I like it as it's loud due to the spray bar. I'm thinking about submersing the spray bar and seeing if that helps. The illustration shows the spray bar above the water but I'm not sure if that's necessary or not. The box, in numerous places says it has an adjustable flow rate but I think I'm either blind or they lie. I see no way to adjust the flow rate and the instructions says the adjustable flow rate is on the 203 and 204 series.... Mercury seems to find it a fun filter and looks to enjoy swimming under the spray bar and having it push him to the bottom. I watched for awhile to make sure he could get out of the corners around it (Spray bar is facing the tank wall).

Monet continues to concern me. He's still lethargic, spends most of his day either hiding or hanging around the bottom, and while he now comes up to be fed he looses interest fast. At least he's no worse, and is a bit better so I'll count that as a plus.
 

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The aquarium sealant finally got here, alright it got here around 4 or 5 days ago, so when I did a water change on Mercury's tank I pulled out his bridge so I could officially block the holes in it's railing, I glued them to the outside and it doesn't look to bad, I'll post some pictures in a couple days when I put it back in the tank. Mercury's doing great but I do believe the brat is still eating the antenna off the ramshorns.

Pinkerton is as feisty as ever, we've started a new game where he chases my finger around the tank then I chase him. He seems to enjoy the interaction. I also discovered that he'd rather chase his food as it falls to the bottom of the tank rather then pick it up off of his betta leaf. Discovered that one when the suction cup on the leaf decided to stop working. I think that maybe he's stopped biting his tail but it might be wishful thinking on my part.

Monet continues to worry me, while he's out and about more his tail really seems to be dragging him down, when he goes to the top and stops swimming he's nearly vertical in the tank. He's also barely eating poor boy. The more I think about it the more I wonder if he picked up a parasite from Sunny my old betta. I suspect that Sunny had parasites and the tank was Sunny's before I switched his and Monet's tank. While the tank he passed away in had been treated with General Cure I never did treat his old tank. Tonight after I did a water change on Monet's tank I put in 1/8 tsp of Prazipro. Hopefully it'll help and won't hurt.
 

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Yet another water change, yet another one done 3 days late. Ugh, I can't seem to hit the week mark no matter how hard I try. I do believe I'm going to start doing water changes every 4 days, then maybe I'll actually do them once a week.

On to updates about the boys.

Mercury is such a sweet boy but seems to be on the shy side. He'll run and hide if something startles him whereas Pinkerton comes to see what might have happened (unless it's really scary) and Monet just does not seem to care. Tonight he got his bridge back and he seemed happy with it, swimming around it and exploring underneath. I'm going to post some before and after pictures to show how the bridge turned out.

Pinkerton is seems happier now that I've been interacting with him more, he's biting his tail a bit less and I can see some new growth coming in. I need to get some new pictures of him to see how much better it is. He's built two bubble nest this past week so hopefully I'm right and he's a bit more content (he's not built one in all the time I've had him) although I do know that sick / dying betta will still build nest.

Monet, ahh my problem betta LOL. Appetite and energy wise he's about the same as he was last week. I used Tetra water conditioner for the water change, normally I use Prime, and redosed the PraziPro so I'll be seeing if that helps. The reason for the Tetra is that the manufacturer of PraziPro says it's best to not use Prime as it makes the medicine less effective. I turned a tank light on the tank, I've been keeping it off to lessen stress, and noticed that his fins are getting really tattered, I'm not sure if he's ripping them laying against the intake of the filter or if he's started biting after all this time. I covered the intake with fish net on the chance that it's the former and not the later.
 

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Well Monet seems more active this morning and is staying at the top of his tank like he used to, is a bit more interactive when he spots me, and was more eager for hes breakfast then he has been in awhile. He ate more and didn't spit out the food, but still didn't eat as much as he used to. Overall though he's doing better then he has in a month or two.

If anyone decides to try PraziPro don't use Prime when you do a water change before adding it to the tank, I did it both way. The first time, 10 days ago, with Prime, and yesterday with a different conditioner, and not using Prime seems to have helped. The first time I honestly forgot to switch conditioners, and didn't remember until after I had dosed the tank, so I just let it be rather then having to run carbon which I don't have on hand, or doing a 100% water change, and stressing Monet out by removing him from the tank.

Hikari (maker of Prazipro) does not recommend using it with Prime, but the only reason I can find is that they both contain reducing agents. I'll have to call them to see why they are saying to not combine them.
 

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Whelp, that didn't work out like I though it would!

I've been looking into getting some other small fish to put in with Pinkerton and keep him occupied. Well yesterday I finally got to PetSmart and picked the boys up a new container of food, and I went and looked at the fish. The tanks at that PetSmart look great, crystal clear water, no algae, and the fish all look very healthy. I knew better then to get any tetra since I couldn't remember which were docile enough to go with a betta. Then I spotted some danio and though they would be great. I remembered reading that they could be housed with betta, and the tank requirements on the description of the fish indicated that they could be housed in my 5 gal tank. I knew that they were schooling fish so I bought 6 of them. I got them home and decided to look them up.......

I have come to realize that whomever said a little knowledge is dangerous, is correct. You see I have now learned that there are different types of danio and the zebra danio, the ones I bought, are extremely active, should be housed in a 20 gal tank, are likely to nip the fins of a betta, and are a bit to active for a bettas liking.... Some said that they had success keeping them with a betta, Pinkerton is an active little busy body so my brain went..."Try it!" Into the tank the insane fish posse went.

Pinkerton was very interested in his new tank mates and spent some time trying to chase them, but had no overt acts of aggression like flaring so after an hour I decided it would likely be alright and went off to join my friends for our Fri night game night. I got home 2AM and with the wisdom known to the over tired decided to research 10 gal tanks, and metal storage shelves to put it on, because I figured with more space would make everyone happy. I called it quits at 3:30 AM and noticed that Pinkerson was hiding behind the Ammonia Alert, something he's never done, so I abruptly with the wisdom know only to the exhausted set up my spare 2.5 gal tank. Did anyone else know that you can set up a tank in 10 min when you have to? Then proceeded to try and catch Zebra Danio, and get them into the newly set up tank..... Yeah that's easier said then done.... Zebra Danio are like a bunch of hornets amped up on Red Bull and 5 Hour Energy..... It took my around 45 min to catch 4 of them, at which point I gave up. So 4 are in the 2.5 gal, 2 are still in the 5 gal.

I feel sick today, sore throat, exhaustion, and headache will do that. I still have 2 Danio to try and net, a filter to put on the 2.5 gal, a neighbor to contact to see if she want to own the insane fish posse, and no energy to accompish any of it.

Folks learn from my mistakes, thoroughly research the exact type of fish you think you might want to get, and if you have any doubt do not, repeat, do not, put the fish in your tank if they are extremely active ones like the Danio are because they are a pain in the neck to get back out again!
 

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Thinking, thinking, thinking.... I could get the metal storage shelves, and a 10 gal tank. Leave Pinkerton in the 5 gal, and set the 10 gal up for the insane fish posse. I know it's not ideal, and the last thing I want is 4 tanks, but the Danios shouldn't have to pay because I messed up. If I give them away I'm pretty sure they'd be kept in a tank no bigger then a 5 gal, most likely a 2.5, and I can't get back to PetSmart to return them.

I just hate having to try and move the 5 gal.
 

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@Rainbo....

Try catching 3... I think it was 335 baby Blue Zebra Danios. Yep, that's right. Somewhere over the 300 mark. Had to catch all of them once every two weeks to do W/Cs, count them, and cull if needed. I still have 150 or so in tubs in the garage. They're all super tiny, but I don't have the heart to cull 150 of them. I have no idea what I'm going to do with them lol.

If you could, I would get a 36" metal shelf (They sell heavy duty ones, 5 tier, for like $40) and set up a 20G long and a couple of 5.5s. You could divide the 20 into a 15G and 5G section, and then have the other two Betta in the 5.5 while still giving both the Danios and Bettas adequate space.

(Or, you could get a 40GB which fits perfectly on 36" shelving and then do a massive community... *wink*)
 

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Oh my, I couldn't imagine trying to catch that many! It must start out easy then quickly move into a headache.

I'll admit to having thoughts on flushing the little things if I caught them, but I'd never do that it's not there fault that I brought them home and I don't have the heart to kill them. Still trying to convince myself to go catch the last two but I still feel horrid and am dreading it. Never again though! I'm creative making mistakes but rarely make the same one twice.

I'm looking for 3 tier shelves, 5 tier is going to be too tall for my tiny living room. Trying to find ones that are 24" or longer and do not have adjustable shelves is a pain though. I'd love the adjustable shelves if I weren't so terrified of the plastic pieces that hold the shelves failing. It's one thing when 100 lbs of cans fall, and quite another when 100lbs of water, gravel, and glass falls.
 

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@Rainbo ....
If you could, I would get a 36" metal shelf (They sell heavy duty ones, 5 tier, for like $40) and set up a 20G long and a couple of 5.5s. You could divide the 20 into a 15G and 5G section, and then have the other two Betta in the 5.5 while still giving both the Danios and Bettas adequate space.

I've toyed with getting a 20G but don't have the money for all the equipment I'd be needing to buy right away. The filters I have are rated up to 10 gal and the spare heater is 25 watt. The plan is to get a 10gal aquarium for $14, a 50 watt heater, and a stand, then upgrade stuff as I get the money.

Luckily I can leave Mercury and Monet, in the tanks that they are in now and shouldn't have to move them. If I put them in the 5 gal they'd have less space since their current tanks are wide rather then tall.
 

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Well all the posse are in the 2.5 gallon, hopefully I'll be able to get to WalMart and get a 10 gal and something to put it on for them in the next few days, just have to feel better then round up a ride there. I think Pinkerton is glad to have his tank to himself again, those danio are certainly active little fish.

Here's a picture of the little guys in their temporary tank.
 

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Well just as soon as the stand for the tanks get here I'll be setting up the Zebra Danio's new 10 gallon tank.

I went with the Aqua Culture 55 gal stand, more expensive but I'm paranoid about a stand failure and 15 gal of water, substrate, and fish all over my floor. Also the metal storage shelf stands I found were nearly $50 and I'd still need to buy plywood to put on them, so I'd be up near what I paid for the Aqua Culture stand. I've also got a Fluval heater coming around the same time as the stand, maybe a day later, and some live anacharis, and anubia coin coming in around a week. I still need to get a tank cover but Drs Foster and Smith were out of the one I want and there was no way I was paying $18 more on Amazon for the same cover. The zebra danio were a rather expensive mistake.......

Pinkerton seems to be happier now that the posse is out of his tank and he ought to be even happier because most of the anacharis is for him.

Mercury remains his same sweet, cautious, self. He likes to watch me but darts away if I try to play with hm like I play with Pinkerton.

Monet, poor boy, I do not know what's wrong with him, he remains lethargic, barely eats, and now seems to be losing his color, I don't know what to do to help him. I've tested his water and while the cycle in that tank seems to have crashed (I didn't realize I had turned the filter down so much it was barely running), the ammonia and nitrite were at 0. I've treated him for parasites, but that's the only thing I've treated him for. I wish I knew what to do for my poor boy.

The Insane Fish Posse (Zebra Danio) seem to be doing alright in the 2.5 gal, 5 like to swim together while the 6h seems to have staked out the bottom back part of the tank as his and hangs out back there. They are eating well and have no signs of disease despite the stress the poor things were put through.
 

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Last ditch effort to do something to help poor Monet I'm going to switch out the gravel. I was reading reviews on the brand of gravel I got, but a different color then the one I had, and it seems that the color will flake off and leach into the water, some people reported that there fish were acting sick due to it. I just have to wait for the new gravel to arrive, probably 2 days from now. I may move poor Monet to a hospital tank in the mean time just to see if the poor boy perks up.
 

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Well on Tuesday afternoon I took Monet out of his 2.5 gal tank and put him in a hospital tank along with one of his silk plants, his live Anubia Coin, and his heater. By that afternoon he was more interested in food then he had been for quite awhile. The next morning he was doing a bit better and he ate well, honestly it's the best I had seen him doing for probably a month. Later that morning he scared the heck out of me by being on the bottom of his tank bent double like the letter n. What the.... I think the might have been looking for dropped food, or preparing to attack his tail which he did a short time later.

In the meantime his new gravel arrived. I stripped his tank, threw out all the old gravel, cleaned the tank with vinegar and rinsed it well. Rinsed everything in it in hot water, cleaned the filter with vinegar, and rinsed the filter sponges in clean, treated, water. Then put the whole thing back together minus one of the silk plants. I let the filter run for an hour, put the heater back in and let it calibrate for an hour, then let the whole thing run for another hour before putting Monet back in.

Today Monet is more active then I've seen him in months, he's swimming around checking everything out, laying in his plant, inspecting the gravel, he actually went after his food this morning.

It's making sense though. He'd seem to be doing a little better after a water change despite the levels always being good. I was taking the toxic water out, replacing it with fresh water, only to have the toxins build back up within a day or two. Those water changes likely saved his life. It's also probably why the PraziPro seemed to work at first, I followed the directions and did a large 75% water change before using it. Now I just wonder if whatever chemical in the gravel was causing the problem did lasting damage :-(

Oh he's definitely tail biting and I'm not sure if he's marbling or his blue color loss is from something else...

Here's some pictures. The first is his old tank set-up, second is new tank set-up, third is how he used to look, and forth how he looks today.
 

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*Mutter* Whelp, not a happy day today. I woke up this morning and noticed that the 10 gal with the 6 zebras was looking pretty quiet and bare. I took a closer look and noticed one zebra belly up, and one swimming. I started really looking and spotted another belly up, spotted finally spotted a 4th hiding in the back of the tank. found the 5th belly up in the anacharis, and the 6th finally put in an appearance. So I've got 2 frightened zebras, a third that looks to be barely hanging on, and no idea if it's the stress of the past couple weeks or something else that killed them. They were fine yesterday schooling to the side of the tank I was on to be fed, and acting fine. The only thing that changed was the plants I ordered arrived yesterday evening and I put the anubia and 2 pieces of anacharis in the tank the bulk of the anacharis is in the 5 gal with Pinkerton and Pinkerton is acting fine.

I don't want to get more Zebras until I know that the 3 remaining are healthy, but I know they need 6 or more to help reduce stress and feel secure so I really don't know what to do. I was planning on getting a 20 gal long for them in a couple months....

On the betta front...

Mercury remains his sweet, shy, self. I swiped two of his ramshorn snails and stuck them in the 10 gal since the remaining zebra's seem to not be eating right. That and it gives the ramshorns a break from Mr. Mercury eating their antenna.

Pinkerton seems to have laid off biting his tail for the time being, I'm seeing new, clear, growth coming in. He seems to love that anacharis and is spending some time hanging out in it.

Monet is doing better, but not yet fully recovered, I'm not sure if he'll ever be but I just take what I can get. His color is so different then it's been in the past, it's like the blue faded and the vibrant red of his tail is now dull. I spotted a white spot on his back that I'm keeping an eye on I'm not sure if it's more color change or something else.
 

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Lost another zebra overnight, now there is one. I expect he'll likely pass away sometime before tomorrow morning as he's spent the day hiding. I just hate that I lost them like that, hard lesson to learn and it doubly sucks when living critters paid for my mistake.

I think I'll let the tank cycle with the 2 ramshorns I put in it for a month and maybe move one of the boys into it, probably Mercury and he's most likely to do good in it, but first I want to get a lot more top cover and plants in it since he's used to living in an anacharis jungle. If I don't move him I'll rescue another betta. Time will tell. I do have a Java Fern on driftwood coming for it, and have an anubia coin, and two sprigs of anacharis in it, along with a host of plastic and silk plants.

On a happier note Mr. Pinkerton seems to have finally stopped styling his tail! I spotted new, clear, growth on it tonight. It just took floating 2 anubia coins, around 3 pieces of soft, plastic, bushy, plants, and as of Monday a bunch of live floating anacharis to accomplish it.

Here's some pictures, the first is at most a week after I got him before he started on his tail styling project. second is the last one I took of what he managed to accomplish in his styling project, and the third is from tonight and you can see the new growth.
 

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