something is wrong with sparta

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betta lover1507

Discussion Starter · Mar 8, 2012

well many people know my 3 month old stunted fry "Sparta", he isn't eating no more! :-( (also i am going to stick with "he" because it is easier than "he/she") and he isn't really swimming, he is always speeding up to get air, and falling back down :-( am really worried. and i still didn't get the money for a heater, i cleaned his tank today and he has been doing that for a while. he ignores the food also. what do i do??

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Boikazi4o9

· #2 · Mar 8, 2012

Maybe it's the nitrogen cycle? Or it can be the heater not sure.

GreyCheyenne

· #3 · Mar 8, 2012

Awwwhhh

Poor Sparta! I don't know how to help you, but I really hope he gets better!

bettalover2033

· #4 · Mar 8, 2012

He definitely needs a heater. Im actually very surprised that he is still alive without one...

Hopefully you can get a space heater or something...ask your parents if they could get a space heater that could warm him up because he might die...they might be more sympathetic...

BeautifulBetta

· #5 · Mar 8, 2012

^+1. Heaters are definitely important, not only for growth, but for the fish's health. When they're in cold water, they're more prone to sickness and such because of the lowered immune system. I had a fry like this once around the same age, couldnt swim and would race to the top for air and fall back down. He was in warm water too but just became so unhealthy for some reason, I, unfortunately, had to cull him because he wouldnt have survived anyway

betta lover1507

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 8, 2012

what is a space heater? :| also my parents have no money what so ever

the only thing i could think of is giving daily warm water into the tank.
i don't get money until 2 or 3 weeks (my birthday -.-) is there anything i could do until then??

MrVampire181

· #7 · Mar 8, 2012

A space heater is a small heater used to heat a room. He's stunted, sick, and doesn't have warm water. That's not good at all. Of course you should know temp swings are not good for fish so adding warm water isn't an option.

LittleBettaFish

· #8 · Mar 8, 2012

Do any of your other bettas have heaters in their tanks? You could put Sparta in a smaller plastic container and float this in one of your other tanks. That will at least partially stabilise the temperature of his water.

Unfortunately, it sounds like the less than ideal care he received prior, is finally catching up with him. Fry sadly, are not very hardy and if they are not given proper care from day one, it can sometimes culminate further down the track.

betta lover1507

Discussion Starter · #9 · Mar 8, 2012

my parents dosen't want me to get heaters

so no, i will probably try to buy 2 heaters in 2 weeks.

Alienchick017

· #10 · Mar 8, 2012

If you have a heating pad I've read of people turning them on the lowest setting and putting them partly under the tank. I don't know what kind of tank you have but if its to big to lift you could probably even put the heating pad against the side of it.

betta lover1507

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 8, 2012

2

i don't even have a heating pad either D: this is a tank sparta is in (the pic is old, and it shows a couple of fries):

this is a better look of the tank:

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MrVampire181

· #12 · Mar 8, 2012

If you don't have heaters or money to buy supplies maybe you shouldn't be keeping fish. It's not a cheap hobby.

bettalover2033

· #13 · Mar 9, 2012

How many bettas do you have besides Sparta?

Oldfishlady

· #14 · Mar 9, 2012

What is the water temp, what size container do you have him in, how much and how often are the water changes, additives used, any live plants, is the top of the container covered with anything, what kind of food have you been offering....to understand this is Betta you spawned????correct.....about how old is he......if you already have a heated tank-float him in a small container with plastic wrap over the top in the heated tank-be sure and attach it so it doesn't sink.....if you have any live food-like mosquito larva or daphnia...offer them.....

betta lover1507

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 12, 2012

as i said i have 6, i do not have a thermometer no more because it was connected to the breeder tank that i was using. i am giving him heat by the lamp (makes heat) and be able to buy a heater, filter, etc. i change water every next day, warm water. i have him/her in a half gallon (too small for just a gallon) he/she hatched on 2011 thanksgiving which was November, 24, 2011. my brother now will share his FBL now (anything i could do with that?), am still checking for frozen BBS (no luck) and "yes" sparta is from (my) DTxVT spawn , parents from (seperate petstores, both separate PETCOs) i still have my radiator blasting (isn't much working) should i put sparta next to the radiator till 10 days? and Mr.Vampire, i have might not said am NOT allowed to have a heater where they wanted me to place sparta (i would've gotten it sooner) and sorry if your irritated by my cries of need, sorry i couldn't get things for my fish earlier (that dearly love, and there like my medication i have been needing for years, am not going into details) OFL it is still too cold for any insects still (becoming warmer, not yet ready) my brother has some freeze-dried daphina, anything at all could be use?

sorry if i sounded quite rude, am just felt sunked after what Mr.V said, so i felt too depressed to ever come back online. i told bettamas to contacted this forum to say i wasn't gonna come on for awhile, since i had a great day i felt like i could come back on again. and i understand what Mr.V said i just wanted some time to be alone. (i'll finish this message later)

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MrVampire181

· #16 · Mar 12, 2012

betta lover1507 said:
as i said i have 6, i do not have a thermometer no more because it was connected to the breeder tank that i was using. i am giving him heat by the lamp (makes heat) and be able to buy a heater, filter, etc. i change water every next day, warm water. i have him/her in a half gallon (too small for just a gallon) he/she hatched on 2011 thanksgiving which was November, 24, 2011. my brother now will share his FBL now (anything i could do with that?), am still checking for frozen BBS (no luck) and "yes" sparta is from (my) DTxVT spawn , parents from (seperate petstores, both separate PETCOs) i still have my radiator blasting (isn't much working) should i put sparta next to the radiator till 10 days? and Mr.Vampire, i have might not said am NOT allowed to have a heater where they wanted me to place sparta (i would've gotten it sooner) and sorry if your irritated by my cries of need, sorry i couldn't get things for my fish earlier (that dearly love, and there like my medication i have been needing for years, am not going into details) OFL it is still too cold for any insects still (becoming warmer, not yet ready) my brother has some freeze-dried daphina, anything at all could be use?

sorry if i sounded quite rude, am just felt sunked after what Mr.V said, so i felt too depressed to ever come back online. i told bettamas to contacted this forum to say i wasn't gonna come on for awhile, since i had a great day i felt like i could come back on again. and i understand what Mr.V said i just wanted some time to be alone. (i'll finish this message later)

Sorry if my post came off as rude.

betta lover1507

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 12, 2012

it's ok, i forgive you

BeautifulBetta

· #18 · Mar 12, 2012

Is there any change in Sparta's behavior? I really do fear that he has something wrong like my one fry did and won't get better

My little dude was like that for a month and a half before I decided to euthanize him, I tried everything but I couldnt help him..

betta lover1507

Discussion Starter · #19 · Mar 13, 2012

no, not better nor worse

tpocicat

· #20 · Mar 13, 2012

I'm so sorry you are having such a hard time. I wish I lived nearer to you so I could help somehow.

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