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Hi everyone,

We are really worried about our new little betta and would be grateful for any advice you can give.

We got our first betta about a month ago. He lives in a 13L tank with filter and heater which keeps the water at 23 degrees celcius. About 2 weeks after we got him he started getting sick. He was sprinkled with white dots and quite lethargic which we thought was Ich. We had a look online and most people seemed to recommend raising the temperature of the tank and adding aquarium salts. Due to the size of our tank, raising the temperature is not feasible. The lady in our pet shop suggested that we treat him with Interpet anti white spot instead, and treat the water every 3 days until the white spot is gone and then put in one final treatment. We have followed this advice by adding the treatment every 3 days according to the instructions on the pack (doing a 15-20% water change at the same time).

We initially thought the treatment was working. A couple of days after the first treatment, all the white spots were gone. A few days later some of the spots came back but these also went away after a few days. Despite the spots he always seemed quite alert and active. I know the parasites operate in cycles and that the treatment we are using kills the parasite in the water rather than when they are attached to our betta, but we have now been treating the water for two weeks and our poor betta is beginning to get spots again. Recently he has also taken to spending most of his time wedged in a small hole in a tank ornament, only leaving to swim up to the surface for oxygen every 5 minutes or so. I'm not sure if we we should continue with the treatment or try something else instead? Does anyone know how long it takes to treat white spot on a betta using the Interpet treatment?

We are getting really worried about him - please help!

Jen
 

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Jen,
When Ms. Blue was getting spots I removed her from the large tank and put her into a smaller tank 1/2 gallon with only water, treated and her hammock to see if the spots cleared and they did. I realized something in her tank was making her sick. I cleaned the tank real good, let it set and dry for 24 hours and then used spring water with 1/2 the conditioner, a plastic plant, and her hammock. I have a heater but not using it. I have a tank with a 5 watt light to help heat the tank.
Because I'm new to the Betta scene I don't know if this will help.
 

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Hey Jen, are those spots still look like a salt grains? If yes then the medications that you are using don't help or you need to use it for the longer time. Not sure why the heater can keep the temp only to 23*? What is capacity is the heater? Is it adjustable one? Ich is very easy to treat with 88* which is 31*c. Is there anyway the heater can heat to this temperature?
If not you need to use medications for longer time. Ich is fatal if you don't get rid of it he will die. And its not good when its coming back , meaning that they attached to the body again and reproduce.
What kind of medications you been using? What are the ingredients?
As for first help
1. remove the filter.
2. Do daily water changes
3. Tell me please if the spots look like salt grains
4. Need to raise the temperature if you can't you need to use medications. Try to buy another heater. You can buy the heater capacity for 5 gall or bigger. Buy adjustable one
5. Tell me what medications you been using?
6. When you do full water change make sure you acclimate betta to the new temp. I am going to give you instructions on acclimation. You need to make sure you don't shock him with new water temperature. Be aware bettas are good jumper so when you take him out of the tank or have him in his changing cup cover it so he don't jump out
7. Is he darting around? Is it looks like he is scratching on objects?
 

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There are many ways to do a water change and acclimate (reintroduce) your fish back into the tank. Here is a few variations that's pretty simple:
1. can have betta in the changing cup with about 15% of the water and keep adding small amount of the new water about every 5 min for about 5-6 times -this way you he will get used to the temperature:)

2. Note the temperature of the water.

Using a plastic cup, scoop him, along with some of his water, into the cup.
Clean out the tank. Refill with water at the SAME temp. Be sure to add the correct amount of water conditioner.
Float his cup in the tank for about 15 min. (Study during this time. If he sits longer, it's OK.)
Add a SMALL amount of NEW water to the cup. (Several tablespoons, or about 1.5 ounces.)
Let his cup float for about 10 min. (Study during this time. If he sits longer, it's OK.)
If the cup starts to fill too much, remove a SMALL amount of water from the cup. Discard it.
Repeat steps 5-7, until about an hour has passed. (If he sits longer because you're studying, that's OK.)
Gently release him into the tank.

3. To do a water change, use a little cup like a plastic solo cup - this cup must be only for him and have never been used with soap or other chems. Scoop him up in this cup (keep him in the cup about 1/4 full of water - it doesn't need to be much because he won't be in it for long) and leave him in the cup while you change his water. To do the 50% use a turkey baster - dedicated only to him that has never seen soap or chems - and drag it through the gravel and try to suck as much of the poop out as possible, in addition to 50% of the water. Use a thermometer under the running tap to get it to be the same temp as the water that is normally in his tank. When the thermometer says the flowing tap is the right temp, fill back up his tank. At this point, add the conditioner (dose for how much water you change - if you change half the water you add half gallon worth of conditioner, If you do a 100% water change dose for the full gallon change). Float his plastic cup with him in it in the new water. Slowly add a couple tablespoons of the new water into his cup every 10 minutes for at least an hour. Finally, dump him in gently but try to get as little of the old cup water back into the tank as possible. When you do the weekly 100% you will do mostly the same thing except empty his tank fully and rinse everything in it very well under warm water but never use soaps or chemicals. Once it's fully cleaned/rinsed you can refill it and repeat the cup/acclimate phase.

4. When I change the water I put him in the cup I got him in then I take everything out of the tank, rinse everything with warm tap water. Then I put everything back in the tank, fill it with dechlorinated new water, and then turn the heater on. When the tank water is the same as the cup water , then take the dirty cup water out and a little at a time and put clean tank water in the cup. After that I put the cup in the tank and he swims out.
 
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