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Well, poop - help needed

I just joined this forum last night and my Betta was still a happy little guy. Sometime late last night he ate my ghost shrimp, but he was still happy to see me this morning. This is when I think I screwed up.

I didn't look for the shrimp until after I fed him. He ate 2 bloodworms and could barely get the 3rd one down. I noticed he looked "stuffed" which was usual as I have been careful not to over feed. He gets 4-5 bloodworms or 2 bloodworms and a couple brine shrimp per day - all frozen.

So, after the bloodworms he really looked full. And then I noticed my shrimp was gone. I finally found the empty shell behind a rock.
Now he is showing signs of distress. He fans his fins faster, has a clamped top fin, and sometimes floats tail down. He is staying near the top on his leaves, but I saw him tucked under a micro sword on his side at the bottom once. He is still swimming, but sometimes darts across the tank. He did flare once.

I am kicking myself for not noticing he had already had "breakfast". I tried to give him a great home in my 6 gallon planted tank, but it looks like I may have killed him. I'm so upset. Is there anything I can do for him? :(

Correction: He is swimming around more since last I checked him - about 15 minutes ago. His top fin isn't clamped either. He may have pooped in the time it took me to write this. I'm going to fast him for 2 days.
 

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I doubt you've killed him from a single over feeding.

Just fast him for a day or two, in the wild fish don't get food daily and they can easily go a few without. Some say to feed a betta a pea if they look bloated because it can act like a laxative ... but I personally wouldn't recommend it.

A varied died however is very health for a fish (any fish). I'd recommend trying to mix up his diet some, maybe add betta pellets in there.
 

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I've tried to feed him pellets (even soaked in garlic juice) and he won't touch them. I have Omega Betta Buffet.
I can get frozen daphnia to mix it up more. Right now, I'd say his diet is pretty varied since he ate my shrimp. /lolcry
 

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And now he's acting completely normal. I guess it's like overheating at a buffet.
I feel better now.
I was really afraid that he was going to die. If I had a salty that acted the way he did, it would almost never recover - and never that fast.

He's even flaring again and begging for food. Too bad little cutie!
 

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I might suggest a day or two of fasting to clear out the piggies system. I put my boy on a starvation diet for two days after he decided his shrimp tankmate was tasty.
 

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I might suggest a day or two of fasting to clear out the piggies system. I put my boy on a starvation diet for two days after he decided his shrimp tankmate was tasty.
He's now eye-balling "Snack", my remaining shrimp. I tap on the glass to get his attention and he gives me the stink-eye. I never a fish could show emotions, but this one can. I did get him to eat a pellet, but he wasn't thrilled with it. I'm sure he'd rather have shrimp cocktail.
 

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I know what you mean, my boy just bullied his last remaining companion (at least I think it is...) to death. Some boys (and girls) just are meant to live the bachelor life.
 

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Take the shrimp out..?
Unfortunately, I don't have anywhere else to put him right now. My new tank is still in transit, but if he makes it until then he can go in there. I did go out and buy a bunch more plants to give him more hiding places. Chips has been leaving him alone now. I'm starting to think that the one shrimp had a failed molt and died and that's when Chips ate him. It was a big Ghost Shrimp!
 

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Java moss, Naja grass will help make sure there are hiding spots small enough for the shrimp- along with food for them. There needs to be a ton of small hiding places to keep them safe.. and would definitely get more as a single one may get overly stressed and hide.

Fast for a day or so to clear out his system as Silver suggested.. for future, fast first and if constipated, Epsom Salt treatment.. Frozen/live daphnia will help keep them "regular". But if overly full of food, fasting is all that is needed, as using a laxative on a fish who isn't constipated is like using it on us.. not ideal and not good for the system.

I want cherry shrimp, but all of mine are very aggressive.. well all but one or two *may* be able to get away with it. One will just stare at the shrimp, the other will want to play with it.. but other then that, yeah.. no shrimp for me :(
 

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Thanks for the recommendations. We're going to the store this weekend to get another shrimp and some moss.
 

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My new plants came in today so there are more places for Snack to hide. He is not shy at all though and usually stays visible. He didn't even hide while I was planting. Chips was less interested in him today, but I purchased 2 more bushy-type plants and some moss just in case. I can't get out to the store to get him another friend until Saturday.
At this point I believe the munched shrimp was the victim of a failed molt, and my Betta took advantage of it.

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I had lots of hermit crabs and a few shrimp in my reef tank, and the shrimp and fish would leave the hermits alone until they molted and then it was buffet time. I also had one Banded Coral Shrimp that lived for years until one night he picked a bad hiding place to molt. They always disappeared completely into the live rock tunnels when they molted. I was there watching him, and right before he got out of his old shell, one of my fish tore across the tank and cut him in two. My other fish (and both my Cleaner Shrimp) joined in and he was gone in minutes. I was rather fond of him, but omg don't molt out in the open.
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