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Hi all.
I'm new to this forum and I just got a 3 gal tank and an elite mini sub filter, currently also having live plants. The problem i have is the current for the filter i have now seems like it a little bit too strong (it's on the lowest setting but still push my Betta around), also the water gets cloudy real fast. I tried to add a lil sponge to the outtake but the current is still strong. What do you guys recommend for a filter that is compatible with our Betta and keeps the tank nice and clear?

p.s: i haven name my betta yet since i just got it, but its a dragon scale! Thanks for the help!
 

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You can rubber band an aquarium sponge around the filter outflow, and that will reduce the current for your fish.

As for the cloudiness, if the tank is newly set up, it's something called a bacterial bloom which is normal and happens in pretty much all tanks. It's not harmful to a betta and it should work itself out within a few days. It's not a failing of your filter, rather it's bacteria living in the water column that are working on forming a beneficial "biofilm" on all the tank surfaces. They are slow in creating this biofilm, and live in the water column until they are able to stay attached to surfaces rather than living freely in the water.
 

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Also, welcome to the forum!
 

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WELCOME!!!!!!!!

First off take those plants out of those pots. For the filter, a tetra whisper 3i (that is the name i think), are very good for small tanks.
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Thank you for the help and info!
It is a new tank set up so i did not expect it to get cloudy 1 day after lol, but since you mention about the bacteria forming it's a relief.
About the plants i was thinking of leaving in the sponge, would that produce any problems long term?
 

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Ya cuz the plants need to spread their roots. And both of those plants are heavy root feeders. So get some root tabs for them.
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You can also use the Azoo Palm filter. Its much cheaper then the tetra one. You will have to order it online but its highly recommend on this forum.
 

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Just to add to what everyone has said, it is normal for a new tank to go through a cloudy phase :) Nothing to do with the filter!
 

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So sorry to hijack but I just had a quick question. I know you guys are saying its normal for a new tank to have a cloudy phase, but what about a smelly phase? My tank (3gal filtered,heated) smells so strange! Like gross even. Although, I went to do a 50% water change and got a mouthful of water when trying to get my suction going and it didn't even leave a taste in my mouth! nothing!
 

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The plant on the right hand side (the Amazon Sword) will need ferts. as it is a HEAVY root feeder, without having any soil on the bottom (or fluorite etc.) it will die pretty fast, just as a heads up.

Without water movement I've noticed any small tank will get cloudy very fast (if there are no plants in there as well). Try baffling the output of the filter, and maybe putting a pre-sponge filter on the intake to slow the movement a tad more and make sure your Betta's fins don't get nipped if he were to drift too close to it.
 

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Bacterial bloom is a common occurrence in most starter aquariums, it typically clears up within a week. It looks "foggy" and kind of grayish. Once your beneficial bacteria establishes itself, it will quickly clear. You usually wake up one day and it is gone.

As for filters, the one you have can probably work if you baffle it properly, but if you find not you can get the Azoo Palm/Mignon filter on Amazon for about 20$. It's a great filter, but you'll want some different sponges and filter media for the long run, but the black one included is great for sticking out the exit for baffling.

As for your plants, the best bet is you get some Flourite or Eco Complete for substrate, but barring that I have grown swords in large gravel like you have with strong proper lighting, good aeration, and suitable fertilising via DIY Root tabs (Osmocote+ pellets in gel capsules) - easy to make yourself. One per 6 inches lasts 6 months or more. Be aware, you'll need to keep on top of water testing when you put these in for the first week incase anything spikes, be on hand with Prime.

You will definitely have to take them out from the sponges and spread their roots well when planting. It looks like you may have a couple plantlets of each, in which case you can have them in multiple spots. They are great, my bettas and bottom dwellers love hiding in them, and my snails love to perch on the leaves.

Another plant I've found to grow wonderfully in these conditions is Hygrophila, both Compacta and the Wisteria varieties. I have grown Bacopa Cardinalis, Anubias Nana, and floaters with similar situations with slightly less rapid growth. Oh, and Ambulia grows well, too.

Unless I am wrong, the right one is Java Ferns - they can just be tied to your rock display if you'd like. Sometimes I find they don't do as well 'planted' proper, just tied to things.

Plants are awesome and all of my bettas LOVE frolicking in them, so much better & they'll help remove nitrates from your water in the long run.

Good luck :)
 

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So sorry to hijack but I just had a quick question. I know you guys are saying its normal for a new tank to have a cloudy phase, but what about a smelly phase? My tank (3gal filtered,heated) smells so strange! Like gross even. Although, I went to do a 50% water change and got a mouthful of water when trying to get my suction going and it didn't even leave a taste in my mouth! nothing!
you need to start a new thread if you have your own question that needs answered.
 

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You do realize that in the time and energy it took you to harass me, you could have just answered the question right?


Question was relevant to the subject matter, get over yourself.
I am not harassing you, I am explaining to you how this forum works.
 

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THank you all for the help! my plants slowly died off so im getting new ones :( I'm also ordering some of the DIY root tabs as Panda suggested and an air pump just for extra oxygen for the plants. I just got a heater for my tank also and left it at around 80 f.
 

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What would you guys suggest for algae control? what tank mates that eat algae that is safe with bettas?
 

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WELCOME!!!!!!!!

First off take those plants out of those pots. For the filter, a tetra whisper 3i (that is the name i think), are very good for small tanks.
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I read that the tetra whisper filters are notorious for catching and ripping betta fins. Anybody have any experience with this or heard of this?
 
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