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Abscess or Tumor or Something else? Need Help.

6.7K views 5 replies 4 participants last post by  saranno.betta  
#1 ·
I bred my betta fish (yellow hellboy male and koi galaxy female) last summer as a beginner and had a whooping 500+ babies. They are 7 months old now and a few had developed similar white lumps on the side of their bodies. I've noticed that the ones that do get the lumps are often white/platinum/dragon scaled. Even if they aren't, discoloration occurs as the lump begins to develop. I keep males in individual enclosures and females in a sorority tank. I took some time to research and read through some of the discussions posted here but could not settle on a conclusion. I've added some pictures of a male that developed the largest lump down below. I need help to find out what they are and what I can do to possibly treat them.

ALSO, I'm a part of the Japanese betta fish community and in Japan, much is unknown about the "lumps" and there are no specific classifications of what they could be (we consider them all to be tumors). It is also said that there are no effective treatments for the "lumps" and that they are virus infections. In my opinion, I think many people here are confusing the "lumps" with the carp pox disease. Since I could not find reliable information in Japanese, I've decided to reach out to all of you in the BettaFish community.


I found this betta illness questionnaire that might make things more clear:

Housing:
How many gallons is your tank? roughly 0.5 (I have a lot of males to take care of so there are unfortunately at minimum size)
Does it have a filter? No
Does it have a heater? Yes
What temperature is your tank? 78~80F
Does your tank have an air stone or other type of aeration? No
Does your Betta have tank mates? No What kind? -

Food:
What food brand do you use? Hikari
Do you feed flakes or pellets? Pellets for individual tanks and flakes for sorority (Feed cultured Moina to both at least once a month)
Freeze-dried? No
How often do you feed your Betta? 2 times/day How much? pellets: 5~8 per one feeding

Maintenance:
Before
your Betta became ill how often did you perform a water change? 2 times/week
What percentage of water did you change? 100% (typical betta farm methods used)
What is the source of your water? Tapwater
Do you vacuum the substrate or just dip out water? Bare tank, clean the whole tank w/ sponge before adding new water
What additives do you use other than conditioner? dechlorinator (idk if that's a conditioner), SUMA Gill and Tail/Almond leaf if the betta has fin problems/not doing well
What brand of conditioner? Tetra's 4 in 1 dechlorinator/conditioner

Water Parameters:
What are your water parameters? Please give exact numbers. If tested by pet store please get exact numbers. "Fine" or "Safe" won't help us help you. Important: Test your water before the regular water change; not after one.

(I used the Tetra 6 in 1 test strips. I'm not sure how accurate they are)
Ammonia: Unknown
Nitrite: 0.0 mg/l
Nitrate: 11.6mg/l
pH: usually 7.0, 6.8 if treated with almond leaves
Hardness (GH): 4.4
Alkalinity (KH): 7.1

Symptoms and Treatment:
When did you first notice the symptoms? 2 months ago
How has your Betta’s appearance changed? Lumps became larger
How has your Betta’s behavior changed? No, begging for food and flaring as always
Is your Betta still eating? Yes
Have you started treating your Betta? If so, how? No, I want to identify what the lump is
Does your Betta have any history of being ill? No
How long have you owned your Betta? Bred them at home, now 7 months old
Was he or she ill or suffering some sort of damage when purchased? No


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#3 ·
Hi and welcome to the forum,

In order to correctly identify exactly what the lump is (type of tumor), you would have to have it removed surgically by a fish vet and tested by a lab. That can be very costly.

Perhaps one of the parents carries that in their genetic make up since you have multiple fish that have the growth and they all come from the same spawn.

Dragon scale bettas can be prone to tumors, especially white bettas.

If the tumor has a cauliflower look, that may be lymphocystis, which is an iridovirus. These usually will form on various parts of the betta's body, and the virus will have to run it's course, sometimes taking as long as a year. It's not fatal, just not pleasing to the eye.

Many fish breeders would cull the fish that have the abnormality.

Personally, I would never be able to cull fish, so I will never be a breeder. I just don't have the heart to do so...

I hope this helps! :)
 
#4 ·
If it is a tumor caused by some genetic makeup, it cannot be contagious, can it?
Because I was concerned, I had been disinfecting the tools I use to clean the male fish tanks. The sorority tank, however, has a few betta fish with tumors and I have not isolated them. I have been changing the waters regularly and maintaining a healthy environment. Should I isolate them nonetheless?